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02-17-2012 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
A cesspit has content.



I am just being polite and saying goodbye to a poster who has said he will be leaving the thread.

Do you have a problem with that?
paid more for polite
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02-17-2012 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkus63
I'm thinking of starting a church for the worship of Hooligan as he must be some sort of poker deity. Anyone else in?
im in
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02-17-2012 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
If you say so.

Most of us just say it's very probably fair.

BTW, no charge on 2+2 for punctuation.
ya i can see how my typing would be so important.

yet another one of your occasional tools.
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02-17-2012 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Anyway, don't appreciate your egotistical town when speaking with me, Calling me Geezer every second you can and sounding like your the PokerGod from the heavens.
I am a much better player than you - welcome to the world. I also recognize others are much better Holdem MTT players than me, but I try to learn from them instead of whine at them that I am somehow the unluckiest player on the planet or in your case the "town."


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Originally Posted by nickybro27
I am done posting on here about this, I said I can read a losing pattern and I can for me. I always play MTT with a plan, a Plan to win!
I actually would suggest that a plan is more than simply wanting to win a tournament. Your plan is pretty much the same plan people have when they buy a lottery ticket - they plan to win.


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Originally Posted by nickybro27
It's very disheartening, I guess now you see and understand why I am emotional over this and why I came on 2+2 looking for some answers. But there are none.
You may want to give posting in the MTT strategy forums a try instead of the joke that is the rigged thread. They will simply lock your threads and eventually ban you if you go on and on about patterns and rigs.


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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Well I am done, just gonna keep on working on my game, I have never said I am perfect player because no one is, but I know I am a very good player. So I ll forever keep working on my game and getting better.

But online , I just gotta work harder and fold that AA or QQ when I am ITM or near the ITM bubble (well I know sometimes it's worth it to fold a big hand just b4 ITM, but I usually play very agro during these times, and like I said get it in smoking best vs the degen reetard that cannot laydown 3/4 to all of his stack. LOL!
Good luck with that fold AA near the money strategy, that certainly seems practical.


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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Take care monty all the best sorry for the goof comment just you were pissing me off with the geezer crap. there is no need for it!

thank you very much for you time, all the best have a great day!
The geezer stuff was partially because you genuinely sound like a crotchety 80 year old in your posts and your awareness of the modern world, and also to show how you react emotionally to everything which is part of the reason why you never get anywhere at poker other than a lucky bink.

I offered to get you an analysis that would likely change the way you look at your marginal game, but at this point I will assume you are passing on it and will continue to believe you are the unluckiest person on the planet who will fold AA near the money to be sure you get a min cash. Let us know whether you are up or down $100 after your next 1,000 MTTs.

All the best.
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02-17-2012 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
My original point stands - if you aren't getting it in bad sometimes you aren't doing it right. It is impossible to debate with you, your posts are either lies, nonsense, gibberish or a mixture of the three. PM Hoooligan, you can start a Skype group and stop him cluttering this thread up.
Excuse me sir, I never said I never get it in bad. When I 1st came on this thread to say I can tell when I am going to lose , I said I am within 90% getting my money in good in MTT's

So 10% of the time I get my hand dominated, or I am not the favorite. Of that 10% unfort online I can only suck out about 0.5% of the time.

This is why I was going to record. But if you did not read my whole post I said I am done, I am just going to keep on working on my game, Nobody is perfect at poker, all I can do is get it in the best and let the cards fall where they may just like live poker I realize this.

However I win a lot of money at live poker, so for me I do not see this losing suckout pattern that happens to me online, I play 3 times a week live for over 8 hours a time. So I think I can see a difference. But hey that's me.

You believe what you want dude I can't make you change your mind man. All I know is what is true for me. I know I play top of the line poker, I go deep, I build a stack to where I am usually always double average chip stack.



Anyway I am done, Take care now.
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02-17-2012 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
FYP.
lol you shills are here to distract plain and simple.

insults are just part of your agenda
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02-17-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Anyway I am done, Take care now.
Bye.

Thanks for dropping in.
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02-17-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Bye.

Thanks for dropping in.

You've been a diamond geezer.
Again a junk post. How do you report a dumb troll!!! Someone tell me!
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02-17-2012 , 12:58 PM
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02-17-2012 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
A cesspit has content.



I am just being polite and saying goodbye to a poster who has said he will be leaving the thread.

Do you have a problem with that?
Yes why are you here on this thread if you do not think online poker is rigged. And if you do or do not, What does saying goodbye to me do for you?

Other than get your post count up. Sound troll to me
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02-17-2012 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Excuse me sir, I never said I never get it in bad. When I 1st came on this thread to say I can tell when I am going to lose , I said I am within 90% getting my money in good in MTT's

So 10% of the time I get my hand dominated, or I am not the favorite. Of that 10% unfort online I can only suck out about 0.5% of the time.

This is why I was going to record. But if you did not read my whole post I said I am done, I am just going to keep on working on my game, Nobody is perfect at poker, all I can do is get it in the best and let the cards fall where they may just like live poker I realize this.

However I win a lot of money at live poker, so for me I do not see this losing suckout pattern that happens to me online, I play 3 times a week live for over 8 hours a time. So I think I can see a difference. But hey that's me.

You believe what you want dude I can't make you change your mind man. All I know is what is true for me. I know I play top of the line poker, I go deep, I build a stack to where I am usually always double average chip stack.



Anyway I am done, Take care now.
You said you got it in good or got coolered. You also said you weren't short stacked and the backed off faster than an Italian tank. In short, you are FOS. Good luck with those videos.
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02-17-2012 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Yes why are you here on this thread if you do not think online poker is rigged.
That is a seriously ******ed question.

Do you see the word 'debate' in the title?

That means the thread is for both sides of an argument to put their cases.

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And if you do or do not, What does saying goodbye to me do for you?
As I've already said, I'm simply being polite and friendly to a poster who has said that he is leaving the thread.

Apart from you increasingly apparent mental confusion, I cannot see why you would have a problem with that.
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02-17-2012 , 01:12 PM
BOW TO THE UPCOMING BIGGEST MICRO WINNER OF ALL TIME

I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED I AM UNRIGGED
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02-17-2012 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Again a junk post. How do you report a dumb troll!!! Someone tell me!
I'd be interested to see the response you get when you complain that after you have posted saying you are going, someone says goodbye. I suppose if we see 'banned' under Wiki's name we'll know.
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02-17-2012 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
My original point stands - if you aren't getting it in bad sometimes you aren't doing it right. It is impossible to debate with you, your posts are either lies, nonsense, gibberish or a mixture of the three. PM Hoooligan, you can start a Skype group and stop him cluttering this thread up.
Cluttering up a thread that's full or riggies? What does that say about you dude? And is that not what you are doing every time you post on this thread? Why are you here trying to convince the people who started these threads that online poker is not rigged when you have no proof of that yourself? You only have your own playing history you have seen or others you have observed to say that its not rigged. And that's your theory. I agree with all what you are saying I am just telling what happens for me in MTT online. And I told you that I play live and I do very well!

Remember your never gonna change any riggies mind about if online poker is rigged or not, they are doomed to think this.

I do not think it is rigged, I have thought about that it might be rigged just like every male has a gay thought once or twice, but again do not think its rigged. I just say I can read my losing pattern and the way I lose I am usually always dominating with my holdings only to lose to perfect run run or 3 out river or less. And the 10% of the time I am behind I can only suckout 0.5%. Why can you not understand this?
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02-17-2012 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
BOW TO THE UPCOMING BIGGEST MICRO WINNER OF ALL TIME

I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD I AM MAD
FYP
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02-17-2012 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mikejfi
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Originally Posted by mikejfi
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Originally Posted by mikejfi
You can keep posting these links until you are blue in the face.

They will not do your work for you.

You need to enumerate any Evidence within them and then use them for citations.
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02-17-2012 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I am a much better player than you - welcome to the world. I also recognize others are much better Holdem MTT players than me, but I try to learn from them instead of whine at them that I am somehow the unluckiest player on the planet or in your case the "town."




I actually would suggest that a plan is more than simply wanting to win a tournament. Your plan is pretty much the same plan people have when they buy a lottery ticket - they plan to win.




You may want to give posting in the MTT strategy forums a try instead of the joke that is the rigged thread. They will simply lock your threads and eventually ban you if you go on and on about patterns and rigs.




Good luck with that fold AA near the money strategy, that certainly seems practical.




The geezer stuff was partially because you genuinely sound like a crotchety 80 year old in your posts and your awareness of the modern world, and also to show how you react emotionally to everything which is part of the reason why you never get anywhere at poker other than a lucky bink.

I offered to get you an analysis that would likely change the way you look at your marginal game, but at this point I will assume you are passing on it and will continue to believe you are the unluckiest person on the planet who will fold AA near the money to be sure you get a min cash. Let us know whether you are up or down $100 after your next 1,000 MTTs.

All the best.
LOL wow 10k in winnings and you sound like your the best player in the world. I at least have learned one thing about my game today. I made 4.8k last year alone MTT live! not 5000 games

Don't be a egomaniac because that will kill your game. Sure ego is good in degrees.

Also I don't care how you talk to me, you are and have been talking down to me like I am a pawn, with your I am better than you attitude. I got news for you arsehole. We are all human, no one is better than me and no one is better than you!

I look at winning poker with skill and logic not a lottery ticket as you say.

You being here responding to riggies tells me all I need to know about you!

Also I play super good, I have studied and read all the poker books, I have played hundreds of thousands of hands, and learn from them, live and online!

I read players, I take notes, I track stats, I have a plan every MTT I go into. I am thinking ahead and thinking behind on what happened or what could have happened. I am playing well.

and no I HAVE NEVER FOLDED AA b4 ITM in MTT only in Satty when I was garnteed a seat have I done it. I actually play super agro because you can pick up a lot of chips at this time. I play small pot small ball pot control early as to build my stack to use later, however then as I have been saying I get my money in good and get the bad result.

Believe what you want to believe I know what is true and everything I said in this post is true and that makes me feel awesome!
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02-17-2012 , 01:26 PM
incredible changes in the RNG, very often suddenly me and the fish hits a hand, instead of juts fish hitting (remember TPTK theory, its actually true)

favourite hands holding up way more often in races aswell

incredible
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02-17-2012 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
You can keep posting these links until you are blue in the face.

They will not do your work for you.

You need to enumerate any Evidence within them and then use them for citations.
oh you thought these were for you to read

silly shill
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02-17-2012 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Believe what you want to believe I know what is true and everything I said in this post is true and that makes me feel awesome!
Confirmed: nickybro27 feels awesome.
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02-17-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
incredible changes in the RNG, very often suddenly me and the fish hits a hand, instead of juts fish hitting (remember TPTK theory, its actually true)

favourite hands holding up way more often in races aswell

incredible
You sound as if you are on amphetamines!
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02-17-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
Cluttering up a thread that's full or riggies? What does that say about you dude? And is that not what you are doing every time you post on this thread? Why are you here trying to convince the people who started these threads that online poker is not rigged when you have no proof of that yourself? You only have your own playing history you have seen or others you have observed to say that its not rigged. And that's your theory. I agree with all what you are saying I am just telling what happens for me in MTT online. And I told you that I play live and I do very well!

Remember your never gonna change any riggies mind about if online poker is rigged or not, they are doomed to think this.

I do not think it is rigged, I have thought about that it might be rigged just like every male has a gay thought once or twice, but again do not think its rigged. I just say I can read my losing pattern and the way I lose I am usually always dominating with my holdings only to lose to perfect run run or 3 out river or less. And the 10% of the time I am behind I can only suckout 0.5%. Why can you not understand this?
A few points:
1. There is a lot of variance in tournament poker. You almost certainly lack a sample size of either live or online significant enough to determine your true win rate.
2. I will say it again so you can ignore it again - if you get it in good 90% of the time, you are not doing it right.
3. Livetards are far worse at poker than their online counterparts.
4. I fully understand what you are saying about you never sucking out, however you are not providing statistics, just what you estimate. I will guess that the two are a long way apart.

Last edited by Hoopie1; 02-17-2012 at 01:45 PM.
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02-17-2012 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkus63
You sound as if you are on amphetamines!
Yeah, he is doing the 'breathless prose' thing.
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