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Originally Posted by otatop
I'll admit I only looked over the last two 100 post pages, but I couldn't find the hands you posted. Link?
The hands in unconverted form are posted at the end.
The EV in the first hand between the two "identical though very different hands" was (ignoring the third guy for heads up calculations) is 58/42
The EV in the second hand is 63/37
This is because the second hand the AA hand is double suited, where the first one the AA hand was rainbow.
Oh yeah, they were at different stakes. Versus different opponents. And last but not least - the hands are not anywhere near the same.
Entropy effect aside, this is like seeing AsKs vs QdQh on one table and saying it is the exact same as AhKd vs QsQc if dealt on the other.
It is not.
They also were not consecutive deals because they were on different tables. The cards were not the same in each hand. Even the ranks were not dealt in the same order.
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Originally Posted by PokErasmus
Well, the similarity applies to certain characteristics such as nomination of the card, nominations within the set and the odds of such events can be accurately calculated based on that similarities.
This is called subjectivity. You see similarities and make assumptions you cannot prove. A good use of one of the riggedologist commandments, but that is all it is.
Next time choose hands that are actually the same. These were not. Not even close (other then the guy who lost both played both really badly).
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Originally Posted by PokErasmus
So tell me please, how on the Earth it is possible PS produces such 1:3 billion odds events daily bases?
It is easy. You make stuff up. If you are so secure in your math skills go to the probability forum and post your data there. You will not because the riggedologist home world is the only place you are comfortable in. Prove me wrong and go there and post and defend all of your entropy effect RNG technical facts.
The very different hands are below. I still maintain my stud hands are cooler, and at least I played them both fine.
PokerStars Game #27144826208: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2009/04/16 4:16:08 ET
Table 'Unukalhai II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: uwilgetbroke ($44.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Phunbaba23 ($24.35 in chips)
Seat 3: BruceLi ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 4: peky1 ($7.20 in chips)
Seat 5: sevup ($58.20 in chips)
Seat 6: mondo nutz ($39.05 in chips)
Seat 7: tacksamkt ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 8: Suicidalik ($24 in chips)
Seat 9: singerboy1 ($47.60 in chips)
mondo nutz: posts small blind $0.25
tacksamkt: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ealt to Phunbaba23 [6c 2c Ad 7s]
Suicidalik: folds
singerboy1: calls $0.50
uwilgetbroke: calls $0.50
Phunbaba23: calls $0.50
BruceLi: folds
peky1: folds
sevup: folds
mondo nutz: calls $0.25
tacksamkt: raises $9.10 to $9.60 and is all-in
singerboy1: calls $9.10
uwilgetbroke: raises $34.95 to $44.55 and is all-in
Phunbaba23: calls $23.85 and is all-in
mondo nutz: folds
singerboy1: calls $34.95
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kd As]
*** TURN *** [Tc Kd As] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Kd As Qd] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
singerboy1: shows [2h 5c 8h 3d] (HI: a pair of Eights)
uwilgetbroke: shows [Ac Js Ah 4d] (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
uwilgetbroke collected $40.40 from side pot-2
Phunbaba23: mucks hand
uwilgetbroke collected $43.15 from side pot-1
tacksamkt: mucks hand
uwilgetbroke collected $37 from main pot
No low hand qualified
PokerStars Game #27144828987: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/04/16 4:16:22 ET
Table 'Gaspra' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: seemsIwin ($139.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Phunbaba23 ($39.65 in chips)
Seat 3: tourbiker ($47.60 in chips)
Seat 4: uwilgetbroke ($201.85 in chips)
Seat 5: dwwg ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 6: 49ers2005 ($184.30 in chips)
Seat 8: Domico ($30.35 in chips)
Seat 9: icecrmking ($20 in chips)
Domico: posts small blind $0.50
icecrmking: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Phunbaba23 [2h As 6s 7d]
seemsIwin: folds
Phunbaba23: calls $1
tourbiker: calls $1
uwilgetbroke: folds
dwwg: folds
49ers2005: folds
Domico: calls $0.50
icecrmking: raises $19 to $20 and is all-in
Phunbaba23: calls $19
tourbiker: folds
Domico: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c Jd 9s]
*** TURN *** [9c Jd 9s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9c Jd 9s 8d] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
icecrmking: shows [Ac 4c Ah Jh] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Nines)
Phunbaba23: mucks hand
icecrmking collected $39.90 from pot
No low hand qualified