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07-03-2011 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
I remain unbiased and receptive to all points made.
Just a regular 3 month review of all the source code by a 3rd party for these sites and the results published would help IMO on there integrity.
So more transparency on these RNG audits and more regular audits but trust e a pokersite does not want you to see this.

Riggies would simply say they change the data in time for the studies or that the companies doing the studies are in on it.

What do you suggest then?
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07-03-2011 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
If only you and the University had brought it to public attention sooner we could have stopped Full Tilts evil scheme before they tied up a lot of innocent players money.
This classic post coming from one of the many site promoters clogging up this thread. Their purpose in his is to lie and B.S. people on how fair the deal is in OLP, all the while trying to sucker ignorant kids into becoming part on the scam that is OLP.
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07-03-2011 , 01:24 PM
Bingo_fool you have search engine right.There have also been other studies that are also ITT.
In regards to in my HH of course i have examples of 4.5% top hand distributions going to showdown.But my sample size may not be big enough and the full HH are not available IE AA vs KK vs 1010 the pp10s may have been folded pre by a competent player.
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07-03-2011 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
This study is already referenced in this thread funny to see some of the shill responses to a major universities studys.Seek and you will find.
Please post the link.
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07-03-2011 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Riggies would simply say they change the data in time for the studies or that the companies doing the studies are in on it.

What do you suggest then?
When there are fully transparent audits we should discuss then not just pull out hypothetical questions.
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07-03-2011 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gothninja
Post the link please.
Seek and you will find.
Also dont forget Ed Millers take at notedpokerauthority
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07-03-2011 , 01:32 PM
There have been several transparent audits, both from players and outside companies. Riggies ignore all those studies. Why do you think your idea of a study would change their faith in believing it is rigged? Some of the riggies have openly said that even when the US legislates it they think the US government will be involved in the rigging. What do you say to them?
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07-03-2011 , 01:32 PM
There's a study with evidence, but I don't want to tell you what study, what university performed it, or where you can find it. Use a search engine and try to find it yourself.
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07-03-2011 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
blah blah blah
ken******: The clue is in the name, yes?
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07-03-2011 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Bingo_fool you have search engine right.There have also been other studies that are also ITT.
In regards to in my HH of course i have examples of 4.5% top hand distributions going to showdown.But my sample size may not be big enough and the full HH are not available IE AA vs KK vs 1010 the pp10s may have been folded pre by a competent player.
So you know they've been dealt too often even though they've been folded by other players? Thats clever of you.

You said 'flops are rarely missed' so that will show up in your hand histories won't it? Or don't you see flops?

I assume you are ignoring my questions about the 'study' because you don't know the answers. You don't know the answers because the information isn't available. The information isn't available because it was made up by some rigtard idiot.
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07-03-2011 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
There's a study with evidence, but I don't want to tell you what study, what university performed it, or where you can find it. Use a search engine and try to find it yourself.
Its in this thread.
Bravo darkus
player audits are not done by software professionals.
I have no clue about car mechanics would you like me to service your car.
Must adjourn for food.
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07-03-2011 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
There's a study with evidence, but I don't want to tell you what study, what university performed it, or where you can find it. Use a search engine and try to find it yourself.
OK - I've searched - not only this forum. The text is posted in a lot of places, and never attributed. It's a classic repeat-it-lots-of-times-and-it-becomes-true scam.

Such a shame there's no evidence.

Is "bollocks" an allowed word here?
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07-03-2011 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gothninja
Is "bollocks" an allowed word here?
If the profanity filter doesn't zap it you should be fine.

And, it is very apposite.
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07-03-2011 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Seek and you will find.
Also dont forget Ed Millers take at notedpokerauthority
gtfo scamster.

Wondering if I should report the "university study" allegation as potentially libelous?
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07-03-2011 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBeatBandit
OK time to nail the hand histories lie.

The assorted sorry bunch who come to this thread every day to argue that online poker is straight constantly demand evidence of rigging without providing any evidence of their own that deals are honestly run.

The only thing they come up with when pressed is 'There is a database on the internet somewhere that shows a zillion hand histories and there is nothing irregular'. This proves zilch, diddly squat, zero.

I am sure the hand histories of every single player show that over the course of say 10,000 or 100,000 hands they received aces as hole cards at the right intervals - every 220 hands. The same will go for kings, queens, jacks and all the crappy hands. The regularity of your cards will appear normal.

What is not shown on hand histories is what everyone else at your table is being dealt. If you are dealt pocket aces, great. If you opponent has a pair of twos and hits a two on the flop your aces mean nothing. If you have kings and your opponent has aces, you will lose. If you have a full house and your opponent hits quads you will lose.

You need to see the hand histories of every player, no matter what stage they folded or were beaten by superior cards. This gives us the full picture - something the discredited poker industry is desperate to keep secret.

If you are at a table with house players and bots and these are being fed better cards than you time and again through deals or through flops, turns and rivers, you will lose very badly.

If you are sitting with a new depositor/someone who generates lots of rake and tournament fees and they are being fed better cards, you will also lose very badly.

It's called deal manipulation and will not show up in individual hand histories. The only way to trace it is through having the hand histories for every player at the table and for every hand to go to showdown.

The poker industry will not allow anyone access to this type of information. It would prove once and for all that the deal is shamelessly rigged.

Instead they send their not very bright minions to poker forums to pose as ordinary players and post snide abuse in threads like this.

It's sad and it's crooked - and it's the online poker industry.

Teach it a lesson - withdraw your cash from online poker rooms and send them an email saying you will only play again when they prove they are not manipulating deals.

Let's start standing up for the millions of honest online poker players who risk their hard-earned cash.

And let's start giving a hard time to the dishonest poker rooms - and their representatives here who try to justify the biggest rip-off on the internet.
Well said, so true.
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07-03-2011 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Bingo_fool you have search engine right.There have also been other studies that are also ITT.
In regards to in my HH of course i have examples of 4.5% top hand distributions going to showdown.But my sample size may not be big enough and the full HH are not available IE AA vs KK vs 1010 the pp10s may have been folded pre by a competent player.



So you know they've been dealt too often even though they've been folded by other players? Thats clever of you.

So much dumb i refuse to repsond to someone with the reading comprehension
of a 5 year old.

Keywords:fulltiltpoker statistical random.

Gooday.
To much dumbness in the spam people cant use search engines or read.
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07-03-2011 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gothninja

Is "bollocks" an allowed word here?
Allowed? It's essential.
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07-03-2011 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Well said, so true.
Are you idiots going to keep posting "so true" and "well done" and "great post" in response to each other's gibberish?
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07-03-2011 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Are you idiots going to keep posting "so true" and "well done" and "great post" in response to each other's gibberish?
Yes they are. I think that's the point of this thread. It's kind of a care in the community service to keep them off the streets and away from our children and pets.
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07-03-2011 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
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So you know they've been dealt too often even though they've been folded by other players? Thats clever of you.

So much dumb i refuse to repsond to someone with the reading comprehension
of a 5 year old.

Keywords:fulltiltpoker statistical random.

Gooday.
Coming from someone who can't use a simple quote function.

You, me and everybody else knows the 'study' is just made up by a rigtard. A rigtard who, by the way, has at least tried to make an effort which is more than can be said for you.

Edit: googling it just brings up a load or moronic, bitter, rigtard bad beat blogs. Did the university manage to telepathically publish the study directly into the brain of a rigtard through the tin foil hat?

Why don't you publish the original source or admit it is almost certainly nonsense?

Last edited by Bingo_Boy; 07-03-2011 at 02:03 PM.
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07-03-2011 , 01:55 PM
Monteroy said a while back hes still real busy with his coaching business even after the FTP shutdown news just recently. Doesnt look that way to me, since hes spending more time than usual in here "whilst"(like how I used a shill word), spreading his B.S. trying to sucker ignorants into joining the OLP scam. Noticed a huge shill count in here also, spreading their lies as well.
Could it be they are losing business? Pity. LOL
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07-03-2011 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
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So you know they've been dealt too often even though they've been folded by other players? Thats clever of you.

So much dumb i refuse to repsond to someone with the reading comprehension
of a 5 year old.

Keywords:fulltiltpoker statistical random.

Gooday.
To much dumbness in the spam people cant use search engines or read.
You should try using different colour text to emphasise the rationality of your argument.
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07-03-2011 , 02:12 PM
[QUOTE=Monteroy;27417462]Unlikely you will see other riggies (even the spam riggies) indicate they believe him about his tournament claims, they may even think he is a fake at this point trying to lure them into believing him with false claims.

Still, if he as an Amercian managed to final table 3 majors in a week with I assume a VPN and help from associates with accounts from other countries and he can back up that claim, he certainly will get some praise (before the accounts get closed).

I still put the cure for cancer as having a better chance.




Regardless of the gimmick chances here (wonder if the riggies will believe this account), I always admire people embracing their inner "Ogre"

"EMBRACING THEIR INNER OGRE" LOL ROFLMAO ...SO SOPHISTICATED WRITINGS LOL...WOULD YOU LIKE A SPOT OF TEA WITH THE ROYALS WHEN THEY ARRIVE ? WHAT A ****ING NERD !
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07-03-2011 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey1970
[QUOTE =Monteroy;27417462]Unlikely you will see other riggies (even the spam riggies) indicate they believe him about his tournament claims, they may even think he is a fake at this point trying to lure them into believing him with false claims.

Still, if he as an Amercian managed to final table 3 majors in a week with I assume a VPN and help from associates with accounts from other countries and he can back up that claim, he certainly will get some praise (before the accounts get closed).

I still put the cure for cancer as having a better chance.




Regardless of the gimmick chances here (wonder if the riggies will believe this account), I always admire people embracing their inner "Ogre"

"EMBRACING THEIR INNER OGRE" LOL ROFLMAO ...SO SOPHISTICATED WRITINGS LOL...WOULD YOU LIKE A SPOT OF TEA WITH THE ROYALS WHEN THEY ARRIVE ? WHAT A ****ING NERD !
Why can't rigtards learn to quote?
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07-03-2011 , 02:23 PM
This ****** train is really flying off the tracks lately.
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