Again, post this in the probability forum with your theory and see what they say. They are not riggies or shills and have no agenda other than liking math, so why do you keep posting this here instead of putting it together in a thread in the probability forum?

Are you afraid of posting there for some reason?



Know the easy way to find out - post in the probability forum!

Yet, you will never do that...


All the best.

I don't think snide means what you think it means.

Give it up site promoters. Trying to argue what has just been pointed out is only going to get you into a bigger hole than you are already in. The lies wont work with these examples.
This is how the deal is manipulated and a billion example HH isnt going to show ****.

Can we get a list of riggie SNs for internet sites or any nice live scores? Fact is they are weak losing players and theres zero way around this. JJJou has confirmed himself an idiot with his responses and there's no way in hell that he will ever address he lack of proficiency as a player as being the reason that poker will never ever be a reliable source of income for himself. You morons can write sarcastic trash all day long but i'm very content knowing that I'll always be able to make money off this game and its you, sir, manning the fryer.

~ He was like a rooster (I liked c**K) who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow. ~

Dream on, bro!

Like I said, if one person A is given randomly given 27, another person B 66, another C AA, and another D JK and the board is 22775, it turns out that if you merely gave person A the AA and the person C the 27, the flop is still 22775 except person C wins this time. EVERYTHING is random here except the hole cards of person A and person C.

I've looked up a few that have posted their screen names on PTR, and you're very right.

But of course they lose their hands posted on PTR because the game is rigged, and not because they limp/call K5o and stack off with top pair.

Sure fry guy, what's your screen name and your real name, I will check up on you and compare. You are on bathroom duty next, don't forget to wash you hands!

How do you get person A or C to see a flop with 72, especially with AA floating around the hands of other players?

This isn't so much of a theory as much as a self-evident point, which shows how board card analysis alone wouldn't detect something overwhelmingly obvious.

Posting riggie results vs shilly results would make this whole argument alot clearer and certain ppl would need to accept that they have one thing in common.

So you have no actual reason to believe that any rigging is going on, it is merely a paranoia you have about big business and the way technology has to be used to generate the cards. The many players carrying out analysis of the data and finding nothing wrong does not convince you at all?

I'd assumed it was for monetary reasons but apparently not.

Edit: Here's a press release about the PS move to Isle of Man, for what it is worth:

http://www.pokerstars.com/press/2005-08-10.html

Well if there was such a rig it wouldn't include a bouncer who intimidates a player into playing 72 of course. It is simply that he could be given the winning cards. But bear in mind that indeed sometimes the winning cards wouldn't be 72. In fact that would least often be the winning cards. So, yes, a player would be getting a disproporionate amount of good starting hands as they are more often winners. But then of course the idea is NOT that a site would give him the winning cards ALL of the time. Rather a very small percentage of the time. And no, you don't get to see his hole card hand history. Fortunately that is not how hole card history is managed.... In fact it isn't managed. Sites don't let you see my hole cards unless I go to showdown. And also as stated before you could omit AA from the manipulated wins. He wins with AA sometimes just not on account of manipulation in this case.

And Monty is entirely wrong with regards to what I said. Doesn't need to be taken to another thread. It would only make him look bad anyway.

If you take ten apples and smash two of them the other eight are fine. Take ten people, slap two of them the others are fine. Take 4 marbles, throw one of them, only one of them is thrown. Pretty simple. Same with giving someone winning hole cards while leaving the rest of the deck alone in my opinion.

Start the ball rolling, fry guy.

It is truly amazing that you pose a question, then assume the facts to come to absolute conclusions. You, sir, have a future career as a riggie if you ever give up the fry guy day job.

I will be content to look you up, just PM me your information with a copy of your Driver's License. I am sure you have one as a PDF given all your FT withdrawals since you turned 18 last month.

This is a very logical post in comparison to some of the rigtard offerings. Good point, well made.

Again, you can't start monkeying around with these cards without it having visible effects over a large sample. If they only do it once, of course it wouldn't be detected. But if they're doing it all the time, people's hole cards distributions will quickly get out of wack. Spadebidder has explained this in the past, and much better than I could (I'm not a stats guy, just learned a lot ITT back before the good stat guys left due to riggie block-headedness)

the following conversation recently just took place

General Shilltard: Delta Delta nine do you copy!
General Shilltard: Do you copy Delta Delta?
Delta: Yes General Shilltard i copy, go ahead.
General Shilltard: I regretfully inform you i must relief you of your shill duties!
Delta: But why? Im really trying my hardest and have put in my homework!
Delta: I even go the extra mile sir, on mondays im learning to have mutiple personalites with montroy, on tuesdays i play bingo with bingo boy hes teaching me it's far more profitable than playing poker and lastly on thursdays i play patty cake with wiki were getting to be such good friends me tells me i should call him by his real name (weakling) Please sir,
General Shilltard: im sorry, nothing i can do you have exposed urself as a shill and the riggies know it!

Except that the last sentence is false.

LOL, gawd you crack me up....

Are you high?