For those wondering why that banned guy posts what he does you can muddle through another rigged thread (that somehow evaded merging)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...rigged-447349/

to see some of his early racist work and to also see how I made him my primary bitch, and to date he still has that title because he earns it with his simplistic, racist , angry view of the world.

That heated debate was over 1 and a half years ago and even though I have not posted to him directly in well over a year that I can recall he still follows me around muttering about how I only play AA in $1 MTTs or about Collin. Ironically, this has actually led to some business for us as people have asked me what that is about (since his obsession in this thread seems somewhat random without the context from that 2009 debate, given that I never post directly to him in this thread).

The guy is not actually a riggie, he is just a permanently angry, jealous nobody, and that's why NFuego20's approach to him is pretty much the best.

Ahh yes if you don't agree with the KGC being totally ill prepared and only being used as a front and a dodge since their land is immune from any Canadian law your racist against Indians. Not.


I find it funny how someone from Canada who condones illegal activity going on in his own country would say anything. Then again you wouldn't want anyone seening what you win since I bet you don't claim it on your taxes do you? Could be fun.

wrong

Oh really?

And this Indian reservation is where, exactly? Floating at 1000'? In orbit?

Hey!

Quit cluttering up this thread with inconvenient Facts.

Evidence?

Evidence?

Sorry, next time i will put some funny fictitious facts this way i will be more credible

Are you unable to read my post just two before Nfuego's that tells you exactly where he is?

Wait, what?

Could you record yourself playing an O8 tournament and do a commentary? It would be hillarious watching you tut and moan about every card of every street of every hand and not actually have clue what was going on at any point in the tournament.

You clearly have no clue when it comes to poker, statistics or logic so have no hope of engaging in any sensible conversation about rigging. However, given your obsession with regulation and laws perhaps you could do some real investigation into this and present some actual facts instead of your usual rants and lies?

Why not do a bit of reading and send some emails out and see if you can get some concrete answers on civil law, criminal law, extraditions etc and see what can be done about the Russ Hamilton situation and any future scandals which you insist are just waiting to drop?

Present some pertinent information and you might become less of a laughing stock.

You just don't get it. The crime did not occur in the U.S., it occurred on a sovereign island state where the U.S. has no jurisdiction to prosecute anyone. It does not matter that Hamilton is a U.S. resident or that the victims were U.S. citizens. If Hamilton robbed three U.S. citizens at gun point in Costa Rica, the U.S. doesn't prosecute him. It simply hands him over to the Costa Rican authorities after charges are filed if armed robbery is part of the extradition agreement.

The fact that the crime happened over the internet actually may give the U.S. a jurisdictional argument as to whether the theft occurred in U.S. territory. However, as U.S has attempted to "outlaw" internet gamblling or rather the funding of it, lost the WTO and has not attempted prosecution of anyone of the players of internet poker, expecting them to prosecute Hamilton for theft for the AP scandal is lunacy.

The U.S. govt has a better case for going after him for the operation of the site on conspiracy, money laundering, wire Act, tax evasion and/or organized crime theories.

LOL you have no idea how wrong it's going to be. Stay tuned.

Glad you referred to this post. In post #7, the first 2 paragraphs are incorrect. But, this guy sure knows what hes talking about in the rest of it. Especially the reference about the first hit of crack, which I talked about in this thread a few posts back.

I apply this thinking to most of my actions.

on a separate note, I really think Nfuego needs to see a doctor. Oh crap, he'll just come in here and say "wrong".

you're on the wrong track

Incorrectamundo

I believe there is some sort of an X value attached to every player on some of the sites. I think someone in this thread explained this theory some time ago, and it makes a lot of sense. This value determines if the cards will help you or help your opponent and changes all the time. Deposits, cashouts, winnings, losing ++ determines the X value. But the x value will be different in the different stakes and games.

A new player on a site starts with a high X value. It is important that he/she can win at start to get a feel of what winning is like. If a player deposit 100 bucks and lose it right away, he are less likely to deposit more than if he first wins 200 bucks and then lose it. Win one time, and everyone will think they can win again. This is very obvious something that the sites can make a lot of money doing.

And the sites want the monies shuffled around much as possible, of course. The good players run worse than the bad players, on average.

The site wont get caught doing stuff like this by studying x million hands or taking large sample size because the system will fix itself so it wont get caught. If you know what I mean. Thats easy to do and prove.

We have to look for patterns, because patterns exist.

They make more money this way, and to "catch" them you would need lot of people and great logistic and all that. And you probably would have to do it "hidden" from public as well.

Note: I saw patterns before I figured out why it could happen. Even though its not really written in that way. I am always concious about "looking for patterns", because I do know how the mind can work against you when trying to see what is happening. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about what I have seen. What I am not so sure about is if others "were me" would notice the same things equally. I dont think so, because the majority of the players completely deny the chanses of site being rigged. They believe the site wouldnt earn anything rigging it, and therefore why do it. Also with so many others playing online poker together with the sites telling you they are regulated and tested and all that, its very hard to believe otherwise even if you see strange things.

And also, you guys shouldnt berate everyone who thinks that online poker can be rigged. You dont know that, only because someone studied 5 million hands or because the sites say they are tested/regulated doesnt mean it cant be rigged. There are many ways to rigg a site, and there are many ways to profit from it.

Well, that was my thoughts. They are many months old, but I just never wrote it because its so hard for me to explain in English.

Easyonkemp - if you think it is rigged why have I made over $23000 from poker and alot of other players have made alot more than me! People live off this game consistent winners! People only think it's rigged because you play so many more hands online in less time that's why there's more bad beats and suck outs that's why you need to play with a good bankroll for your stakes so you can take the swings if your a good player and make the right the decisions your going to profit in the long run! These company make alot of money from the rake there is no need to rig it for more action why would they risk it! Online poker is not rigged end of story!

Where the internet legally occurs is very much up for debate. Two players in the U.S., servers in Canada, a corporation under the laws of Antigua and Barbuda. I have to imagine that there would be arguments all over the place about jurisdiction .... but I don't want to do any research and come up with all of the various arguments.

Also I'll admit I'm more into the civil side of things, but just because something happens in a foreign country does not necessarily mean that a suit can't be brought in a U.S. court (a lot of times a big factor that makes that hard is that the person or entity you want to sue is in some other country but that's not the case here). It could be different for criminal actions ... I'm not sure .... but I would think there would still be an argument to make if one wanted to try.



And as for your lunacy statement: Yes, I agree with you. I do not expect the U.S. will want to attempt to prosecute Hamilton at any point.

According to his theory, you're up $23k because you're bad.

Does your accountant know what you are doing buddy?

Do you have any reason whatsoever to believe that he does not report poker winnings on taxes? I report all of my gambling wins and losses on taxes ... poker, sports, tables games, even $20 bets with my friend over a beer pong game (the vast majority of it is poker though). I don't know whether or not he reports poker on his taxes. But people do and he very well might and you don't seem to have any reason to believe one way or the other. To me it just seems that you enjoy personally attacking him and do so so with an accusation of tax fraud despite having zero supporting evidence.

He makes all sorts of things up all the time.

I don't mind, that's the cost of turning him into my bitch 18 months ago in that other thread I linked. This is just his latest schtick, so I guess he gave up his Collin thing for now just like he gave up on his "I only play AA in $1 MTTs" thing he muttered at me randomly for months in unrelated threads.

In contrast, he does once in a while post whiny posts about busting in $2 rebuys on Tilt

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...me-win-984220/

so he keeps himself busy, even the BBV guys love him and dismiss his posts as made up.

He is a nobody, just ignore him.

Let's hope he does though his admiration for people that break the law for finacial gain makes one wonder doesn't it? As for personal attacks there are plenty to go around but I find it funny how you react to certain ones and ignore others.

I only look at this thread every couple of months at most, I definitely miss stuff. I also wouldn't much bother with 4 letter word personal insults or whatever. Tax fraud is a felony so that accusation is slightly more serious.


And as mentioned many times there are a multitude of lawyers who believe that online poker sites are not breaking any U.S. law. There has been no definitive court ruling on the subject.

LOL, who are these lawyers? You think they have a bias? it has been proven beyond fact that accepting money over phone or internet for any gambling purpose is illegal. You can try all you you want to say poker is all skill (it's not) and that sites that hide offshore are within the law (they aren't). Enjoy that Kool Aide it's not going to last much longer. As for Monteroy he may be a nice little boy and report all your winnings but from the sounds of his posts and his sympathizing with people who are breaking the law (albeit safe from any prosecution) leads me to believe otherwise. In fact I would be willing to be many online players dodge taxes as their is no way to track any of the money. Something that will also be ending soon. So enjoy it while it lasts.