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11-12-2010 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Resistance
OP, why don't you just save up your wages and play at low/mid stakes where it's not rigged?
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11-12-2010 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
I NEVER ****ING WIN AS A FAVORITE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN IF YOU GET YOUR MONEY IN GOOD AT THE MICROSTAKES ON POKERSTARS. IMPOSSIBLE. WHY DOES EVERY SINGLE RIVER HIT MY OPPONENTS? EVERY ****ING TIME THERE IS NO ****ING WAY IF THIS **** WAS LEGIT WHERE ARE THE HANDS WHEN I WIN WITH THE BEST HAND?
stop yelling at me plz. it´s a widely known fact jokerstars (pokerstars) is rigged. since every single river hits me, i hope u keep playing there. maybe you can sell some stuff for ur bankroll?

that would be great, thank u so much.
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11-12-2010 , 08:26 PM
check this out that someone sent me:

http://www.cruzino.com/gr/pokerstars?page=23

74% of people would NOT play on pokerstars again?
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11-12-2010 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Resistance
OP, why don't you just save up your wages and play at low/mid stakes where it's not rigged?
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11-12-2010 , 08:36 PM
37 pages of comments and the similarities are astonishing....

every talks about how they deposit and win a bit taking bad beats here and there as expected....then all of sudden they are losing every single 80/20 situation for days and days. the people on this forum are affiliated with jokerstars and will always try to convince you that its just "variance" and try to use math to make you think that what you are experiencing is normal. if they actually stopped for just a minute to actually think about what is happening it would be perfectly clear; this site is rigged.

when there are over 40+ cards left in a HU deck and they hit the 4 outter or better 90% of the time it should be obvious to anyone with a ****ing brain that there is something going on.

and when i sharkscope people or PTR them, i notice that these beats are never given to me by winning players. i've noticed in HU sngs that you will lose a race more than 90% of the time if your opponent is a loser, yet against a winning player your hands will hit or hold as expected.

this is too big of a coincidence.
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11-12-2010 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by baphomet
Can you come up with one logical reason why 2NL would be rigged?
No you can't. You're just an idiot who's running bad and playing equally as bad. There's no reason they would rig microstakes. They don't even generate a lot of rake from it. Just shut up and accept the fact you suck at poker and most likely life as well.
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11-12-2010 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Resistance
OP, why don't you just save up your wages and play at low/mid stakes where it's not rigged?
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11-12-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jb514
um, the burden of proof is on those who think it is rigged. It's impossible to prove it is not rigged. We just gather facts to assert that it is extremely unlikely.
You words [we just gather facts] present those facts. Other wise the facts you talk about don’t exist. Please no cartoon facts.
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Likely or unlikely to be rigged, you state it is extremely unlikely to be rigged, which means you must have some good evidence verging on the extreme evidence which is very close to proof. Please provide this extreme evidence.
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The red team’s having trouble getting there story right, legally you are in a bit of bother here, on one hand you claim you should not have to produce evidence because the evidence is imposable to produce. On the other hand you have gathered extremely good evidence. Which one are you communist dogs going to run with.
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Don’t have to produce evidence because they don’t bash there wife’s
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Have enough evidence that it is extremely unlikely to be rigged.
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11-12-2010 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by baphomet
No you can't. You're just an idiot who's running bad and playing equally as bad. There's no reason they would rig microstakes. They don't even generate a lot of rake from it. Just shut up and accept the fact you suck at poker and most likely life as well.
they don't generate alot of rake from it? wtf are you smoking. go look it up idiot.


i am a winning player and this site is LIMITING my winnings in order to make more rake. over 300k hands things should be pretty clear and have evened out but instead i find more and more proof that this **** is rigged. what is the point of making the correct +EV telling yourself over and over again "oh well i made the right play and they got LUCKY". the numbers dont add up. people get "lucky" so frequently that i am beginning to wonder if it is more +EV to avoid all situations where i dont have them drawing dead.

IT IS ****ING RIGGED. I PROMISE YOU WE WILL FIND OUT SOON.
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11-12-2010 , 09:02 PM
how about this. i am going to post EVERY SINGLE ALL IN i have until this thread gets closed. you ****ing idiots can decide if its rigged or not and all i am hoping for is that i keep just ONE person from making the mistake i did and depositing on jokerstars. winning or not, its a ****ing waste of time.
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11-12-2010 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
how about this. i am going to post EVERY SINGLE ALL IN i have until this thread gets closed. you ****ing idiots can decide if its rigged or not and all i am hoping for is that i keep just ONE person from making the mistake i did and depositing on jokerstars. winning or not, its a ****ing waste of time.
you know whats not a waste of time? this thread. sooooo much information. as soon as im done with this stars deposit ill forward to wikileaks, no doubt they'll be interested
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11-12-2010 , 09:17 PM
so explain to me why this continues to happen to me over 300k hands? i'm just unlucky?

ya fkn right

what about things like this:

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Of 288 times that i recorded this situation, the flush draw would go on to to hit and beat the made hand 156 times for an astounding rate of 54%
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11-12-2010 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Resistance
Ok then, if this is your logic,

You, sewhog, are a dog rapist.

I have no evidence of this beyond a vague feeling, but, should you refuse to present evidence to the contrary, to the casual observer, you are a dog rapist.
According to your if, the poker industry can’t find evidence to defend themselves, then the trial can’t go ahead, I am sure if. I can’t find any evidence to defend myself. Is a legitimate reason to abandon trials every crook on the planet would use it.
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11-12-2010 , 09:39 PM
OP has made it clear that he not only doesn't want to engage in rational thought, but doesn't even want to engage in discussion, and is merely using 2+2 as a soapbox for his irrational idiocy. This defies the point of an internet forum. As far as I know a blog is more suitable for that purpose.

Filing a motion to ban OP
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11-12-2010 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
According to your if, the poker industry can’t find evidence to defend themselves, then the trial can’t go ahead, I am sure if. I can’t find any evidence to defend myself. Is a legitimate reason to abandon trials every crook on the planet would use it.
It is a legitimate reason you incredible idiot, the accused don't have to prove or disprove anything the prosecutors do....what trials have you watched? rofl
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11-12-2010 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ComplexP
It is a legitimate reason you incredible idiot, the accused don't have to prove or disprove anything the prosecutors do....what trials have you watched? rofl
wow read his post again you ****ing idiot

pokerstars MICROSTAKES is rigged PERIOD. end of story.

how come when i watch some high stakes action u hardly ever see set vs set.....runner runner str8s etc? BECAUSE ITS NOT RIGGED AT MID OR HIGH STAKES.

i promise you pokerstars will lose everything within a few years.
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11-12-2010 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
Of 288 times that i recorded this situation, the flush draw would go on to to hit and beat the made hand 156 times for an astounding rate of 54%
then just shove every flush draw until u've made enough money to move up to mid stakes... ez
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11-12-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
pokerstars MICROSTAKES is rigged PERIOD. end of story.

how come when i watch some high stakes action u hardly ever see set vs set.....runner runner str8s etc? BECAUSE ITS NOT RIGGED AT MID OR HIGH STAKES.
The interesting thing about your argument is that you come off looking like a moron either way. Assuming Pokerstars is not rigged, the reasons for this are obvious. However, assuming that your claims are true, you've identified a specific stake level on a specific poker site where the game is rigged and yet that is exactly where you choose to play.
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11-12-2010 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
wow read his post again you ****ing idiot

pokerstars MICROSTAKES is rigged PERIOD. end of story.

how come when i watch some high stakes action u hardly ever see set vs set.....runner runner str8s etc? BECAUSE ITS NOT RIGGED AT MID OR HIGH STAKES.

i promise you pokerstars will lose everything within a few years.
I think the skill level, or minimally experience level, of high stakes players precludes the kind of variance you're addressingbemoaning here.

If your micro games are so manifestly rigged why haven't you pulled the trigger on a cash out?
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11-12-2010 , 11:04 PM
The other day I had the misfortune of buying a faulty toaster, so I take it back to the store. I was directed to complaints department.
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Sewhog……………………......... sir my toaster doesn’t work
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complaints department ……..what brand is it
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Sewhog………………….......……poker stars brand
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complaints department………idiot
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Sewhog………………….......……I’m sorry I’m an idiot sir. I put a peace of bread in and have a 75% of getting toast but comes out at 51%
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complaints department………you have inappropriate sex you rapist dog
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Sewhog…………….......…………no I dont. But my full tilt, party poker, Everest, cool hand toasters all do the same thing.
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complaints department………fool you got a low IQ what is it 50 HA HA HA
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Sewhog………………….......……I am also having a lot of trouble with my UB toaster I put bread in, out pop toast then a superuser appears from nowhere snatches the toast and runs off.
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complaints department………I don’t want to talk about UB you maggot ridden cesspit.
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Sewhog……………….......…….my neighbor potripper has a good toaster he puts in a slice of bread and out pops 10 slices of toast. Can I swap all my toasters for one like potripper.
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complaints department……..no
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Sewhog……………………........please sir
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complaints department……..you little insignificant rodent one more word from you and I lock all your toasters.
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Sewhog……………………........sorry sir.
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complaints department……..LOCKED there all locked. Locked you here me, HA HA HA HA. Now, what is a brain dead imbecile like you going to do to a billion dollar industry based on the isle of man WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE . Listen to me very carefully son of a goat herder I know one thing for certain you won’t be eating toast tonight.
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Sewhog…………………..........…I think I am going to cry.
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11-12-2010 , 11:05 PM
because i am a broke ass heroin addict and i have no way to get money on another site and if i cash out my money to put on another site somehow i will end up blowing my bankroll on a couple grams of heroin.

and you idiots who keep trying to be witty and say things like "well then just shove every flush draw or chase every set, etc" IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT. it makes winning players lose more and losing players win more. get it? got it? good.

if any of you are willing to send me(or trade for Pstars) $5 on bodog or something then i will shut the **** up and start playing over there. besides they have HU cash games as low as 0.02/0.05
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11-12-2010 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyPrimus
I think the skill level, or minimally experience level, of high stakes players precludes the kind of variance you're addressingbemoaning here.

If your micro games are so manifestly rigged why haven't you pulled the trigger on a cash out?
ive cashed out close to $300 from pokerstars and have only played as high as 5NL.
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11-12-2010 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ComplexP
It is a legitimate reason you incredible idiot, the accused don't have to prove or disprove anything the prosecutors do....what trials have you watched? rofl
I have risen in rank from a humble idiot to an incredible idiot.
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man this real is the complaints department from hell.
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This is a billion dollar company making a claim poker is fair and now refuses to prove that to be the case.
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If a company clams to produce milk with only 3% fat they should be able to prove it only contains 3% fat
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The poker industry claims poker is fair they should be able to prove it is fair.
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11-12-2010 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
so much fail in this post
Thanks professor, I went to State school
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