How can it be rigged its random right?? No, it's not computers can't generate random numbers out of thin air like a person can. Computers use very complex mathematical equations to come up with a "random number" but its never truly random. However this still doesn't prove its rigged the reason you see more suck outs on online then in real life is because you see more hands than you would in real life, about 3 times as much. and yes hitting one outters happens in the real world too look up Phil Hellmuth on youtube and you can see some of em. Also about 70 percent of the time the best hand after the flop wins the hand but about 30 percent of the time it won't meaning, you going to get sucked out on about 30 times of every 100 hands you play get used to it.

Who are these people?

USA! USA! USA!

Everyone else sucks, amirite?

LOL.

Can you name any of these people?

Just one would be a start.

And poker players are more ruthless than most.

Any site naive enough to try and rig the deal would discover that very quickly.

Absolutely nothing

I'm sure having a stash of a few thousands in play money entitles you to believe you are a poker god.

In other words you are a complete idiot.

Except that they are.

On TV?

I think you have a fair bit to learn before you actually reach the age where they let you play with real money.

Absolutely.

It makes you wonder how the world ever managed to throw up the great civilisations of the past without the US to show us how to regulate things with such outstanding examples of regulatory competence as Lehman Brothers, Worldcom, Enron and Madoff.

Or how we got on before America showed up and invented such things as roads, petrol engines, steel framed buildings, telescopes, photography, jet engines, Radio, TV ...

Oh, wait ...

Really?

Who'd'a thought it?

I guess we're all going to have to have a bit of a rethink on the basis of this new information.

Now, I think that some one just might have mentioned that once before in the 25900 odd posts that make up this thread.

I've seen that posted before, but never in such a good spot IMO. WP sir, very WP.

Most of the posts does not reguire whole 8 seconds read




But as you mentioned above, the average time spend on one post is 8 seconds.

Average does not tell you the truth. Average is always a bit misleading information.

For example if I drove lets say from London to Manchester and my average speed was 50 miles per hour. It only tells you that I drove 50 miles per hour on average.

What it doesnt tell you , is that I might stopped somewhere for a cup of coffee or that at some point I drove maybe 60miles/per hour or perhaps I didnt drive from London to Manchester in one day.

It´s not rigged :-)

Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it.

No it's not that, though it's a popular smoke screen. Its just the US will do a much better job at Regulating than these offshore places. Which provide no regulation and mostly are just tax dodges as well

Hard to argue with these cold hard facts and the evidence you've provided.

Lord knows Enron would never have happened in the US like it did on the Isle of Mann, right?

Yeah and it's a good thing none of these companies are/were regulated in the USA....oh wait...

Action poker explain this one
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ActionPoker.com Game #818461498: Hold'em - 2010-09-10 10:34:47
Table Dumb and Dumber (Real Money) Seat #7 is the button
Seat 0: IRONMANCAN (1.72 in Chips)
Seat 1: kingcronus (0.95 in Chips)
Seat 4: ultra956 (0.48 in Chips)
Seat 5: habsaddict (1.24 in Chips)
Seat 6: stelik (5.52 in Chips)
Seat 7: ricker70 (2.45 in Chips)
Seat 8: iulius (0.81 in Chips)
Seat 9: Myy10 (0.98 in Chips)
stelik: Posts big blind 0.02.
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt To kingcronus [QH QS]
habsaddict: Folds.
kingcronus: Calls 0.02.
IRONMANCAN: Folds.
Myy10: Folds.
iulius: Folds.
ricker70: Calls 0.01.
stelik: Raises 0.06.
kingcronus: Reraises 0.93 and is All In.
ricker70: Folds.
stelik: Calls 0.87.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot 1.75 | Rake 0.19
Seat 0: IRONMANCAN Folded before Flop
Seat 1: kingcronus showed [QH QS ] and lost.
Seat 4: ultra956 Is Sitting Out
Seat 5: habsaddict Folded before Flop
Seat 6: stelik (Big Blind) showed [AH QD ] and lost.
Seat 7: ricker70 Folded before Flop
Seat 8: iulius (Button) Folded before Flop
Seat 9: Myy10 Folded before Flop
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2 players all in kingcronus QQ stelik AQ and both loose.........

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The board was 00000 and the house got it all. Happens live too, that's poker etc.

Just go back to Real Deal

......oh wait...

How fitting.

Very strange MTT distribution of 72o and 52o in my case (PartyPoker):

Anyone else noticed this? I have seen lots of 4:1 underdogs take down pots grandes.

rigged obviously. in before lock/delete/ban

Confirmed. PokerStars upped their suckout rate on October 1st to encourage players to gamble more. Bigger pots = more rake. Smart business move imo.

Amazing how many people dont know the extreme statistical deviations that can and do occur with poker especially over small samples. People run bad or into coolers for a few days or a week and go crazy. Its called variance. I did lose with AA to KQ my last 4 times which is very unusual. I might sign up for the rigged debate haha

I don't think pokerstars is rigged. But this is a situation that happens everyday that certainly seems rigged. It seems in situations where 3 players are all in preflop their cards all perfectly match the board (even if they shoved with something stupid like J8s).



Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t6430 64.30 BBs
SB: t3220 32.20 BBs
BB: t10020 100.20 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1195 11.95 BBs
UTG+1: t1930 19.30 BBs
MP1: t2130 21.30 BBs
MP2: t4240 42.40 BBs
CO: t1580 15.80 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to t1195 all in, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t4240 all in, 1 fold, BTN raises to t6430 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t9825) 8 J A (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: (t9825) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: (t9825) K (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t9825
BTN shows 8 J (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
Hero shows A K (two pair, Aces and Kings)
MP2 shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
MP2 wins t6090
MP2 wins t3735