According to the rigtards you don't need to know how often something is happening or how often it should happen. You just decide that something "feels" wrong because you can't win.

Like this guy. (Yes. I have decided you can't win with no evidence to back it up and stated it as fact.)

a DoN theory, k,
you have a sample h/h?
and why do you think the rigged decks are used on the DoN's again?

Yes to the bolded part. The problem is every idea of how a site can be rigged can be tested statistically to see if it falls within expectation, or deviates too far from it.

The only issue is sample size, but if you don't want to play millions of hands on site x you can just buy them, they are cheap too. Or get them for free for research purposes from some site that datamines for this purpose.

And yes, people have done tests like this without finding anything wrong in the deal. The problem with people that believe it's rigged is they don't want to do the work, and don't know how to do the work. That's where the term rigtards comes from I reckon, they keep shouting something that they could prove but don't even try, just keep shouting.

Look at the level of grammar, sentencing, logic flow of the average 'rigtard' vs the average 'shill' ITT and you'll begin to see why...

It's also been shown fairly convincingly that action flops would probably decrease overall rake, not increase it as commonly argued. And this is even before the games start dying per the above points.

This is ridiculously easy to prove, so feel free to show your proof.

He's too busy looking at himself in the mirror backwards, DUCY ?

No, because they rig it so the action flop hits the good player and he can't fold. Then the donk is given the miracle card. All the sites actions are geared toward the donks because if they aren't helped the total site handle would be cut by at least 30 to 30 percent.

30 to 30 percent... man, that's a huge difference. so, if the sites are rigged for the donky, then why are you complaining, your about to be a rich man!

This deserves an epic facepalm...actually this entire thread does

Yup, pretty solid evidence there.

If I was going to see my 'handle' drop from 30% to 30% I'd certainly think seriously about rigging my site.

Seems pretty rigged if they can make it impossible for you to fold

I'd do an animated GIF, except that its a lot of work for such a small joke, but picture in you mind a table with A Q A J and Hero has A A ... the river comes T ... villain shoves ... and Hero's fold button is greyed out ... no matter how many clicks nothing happens ... Hero has to call

wrong.... and wow, you're really losin it aren't you?

I'm pretty much convinced that BOP is a regular poster here who just uses that account to mouth off from time to time.

Yes, there really are people as stupid as he appears to be but they generally make at least some attempt to hide the fact.

It took me seven days and 3 hours to get here from page 1!

At 8 hours per day that's 8 seconds a post. Skimming isn't allowed, please start over.

you sure is a hard task master mr spade,
but you are right
if you are going to do something, you just cant skim like that

Are you using an old browser and single tabbing?

Firefox and 24 tabbing ftw !!!

UB and AP are not on the up and up. Besides the security breaches, they have a history of software 'bugs' and do not refund money because of them. I lost out on a bunch of MTT's because of these 'bugs'.

In my experience...FTP seems to be streaky. You either run hot or cold. It also seems to allow bad poker players to run hot against solid ones. Spewing and head scratching calls on all-ins sucking out that 4, 5, 9 to one (or worse) odds. It is in Full Tilts best interest that no one wins too much money, so there could possibly be a handicap system coded into the software.

But...like what happens in brick and mortar or home games....it could be explained as a donkey on a heater. You can't beat a donkey on a heater. In fact, you will lose money hand over fist.

lmao these n00bs

Damn thats some dedication.

And your conclusion?

Those who say they know online poker is not rigged are naive beyond description. Young people mostly, with a dream to become rich off of online poker. Vigorously defending that dream. The world is a ruthless place people.

THE SITES ARE NOT REGULATED IN THE USA. That means anything goes and billions are at stake. You trust they do the right thing and give random cards so you can have a fair game? hahaha.

BTW I'm up thousands online, been playing online since it started. Still play because I get a poker itch (its addictive believe it or not) and want to play even though I think the game is rigged.

The suckouts and streaks of bad beats you go through online are not seen in live poker. That is the bottom line. Has nothing to do with seeing more hands. I've seen more live hands than many here in this thread have seen online.

The sites can make billions more a year by manipulating certain people and certain situations. They don't know how long they will be able to operate in the US, and never have known for sure. BILLIONS are at stake. But yeah everyone playing on the sites is getting fair cards. I think many here arguing are just from the sites, but to those that aren't....you have a lot to learn in the game of life. You have a lot to learn about human nature.

Who are those? Links? Pretty sure nobody in this massive thread ever said that.