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Got given loads of free money by site. Steal it or not? Got given loads of free money by site. Steal it or not?

10-21-2015 , 06:34 PM
Ok, so after grinding for many hours on a certain online poker site, I reached a certain bonus level and unlocked a new VIP level. All very standard stuff, but then I looked at my points account on the sites and saw I was given a ****load of free ones (Amounting to $1000s of free money).

Now I'm pretty much 100% this is a system glitch, but I'm just wondering wtf I should do. Should I just not report it and spend them all and cashout the money? Or give the game away and give them up and hope they let me keep some? or just Degen it up and hope to double it? Any advice/experience sharing is welcome
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10-21-2015 , 06:44 PM
You reached a secret level. Likewise you get lots of points.

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10-21-2015 , 08:04 PM
well i mean you have done nothing wrong. you didnt use some glitch you found and are exploiting. you didnt steal them. How are you exactly supposed to know that you were given them in error? is it your responsibility to know exactly what you are suppose to be given at what VIP level? If not, i would just keep them. i wouldnt spend them all right away incase it is a glitch and they do want them back. I would let them sit for a few weeks. if you are never contacted about them, I would then consider it a bonus u were unaware of and count them as being rightfully yours. Am i wrong in this in anyones opinion? I mean its a bonus. Is it your responsibility to ask whether or not the bonus u receive was too high in your opinion?
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10-21-2015 , 08:32 PM
Here is a personal example of what imo is a somewhat similar situation. The casino I play at opened about 1.5ish years ago. Their reward system claims to give $1 an hour in comps for 1/3 play. Well since the first hour I played to now which is over 700 hours this year alone I (as well as every regular I've talked to) have been receiving $3/hr in comps. I don't know why because if you ask the floor they will tell you it's $1. I guess it's a glitch. I believe a lot in karma and try to live my life in a pretty moral way but I simply don't think it's my responsibility to go to casino management and alert them of this, and I don't feel my not doing such is in any way being dishonest nor immoral.
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10-21-2015 , 09:14 PM
Keep the money! All day, every day
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10-21-2015 , 09:31 PM
Don't assume that the site won't find the mistake at some point and decide to correct it. Those points may have been meant for someone else's account or they might be part of a larger glitch that they will correct.

When banks have accidentally put large amounts of money into their customers' accounts by accident some customers have gone to jail for fraud when they knowingly spent the money. You won't get sent to jail for cashing the points, but at some point in the future the money might be taken from your account and you might get banned from the site. You don't want that hanging over your head.
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10-22-2015 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
customers have gone to jail for fraud when they knowingly spent the money.
"what do you mean spent money that was mistakenly placed in my account, I was thinking I deposited a sum larger than that a few weeks ago, silly me."
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10-22-2015 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sfustin900
well i mean you have done nothing wrong
Not yet he hasnt.

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you didnt use some glitch you found and are exploiting. you didnt steal them.
Not yet he hasnt.

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How are you exactly supposed to know that you were given them in error?
He admitted he knows.

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is it your responsibility to know exactly what you are suppose to be given at what VIP level? If not, i would just keep them. i wouldnt spend them all right away incase it is a glitch and they do want them back. I would let them sit for a few weeks. if you are never contacted about them, I would then consider it a bonus u were unaware of and count them as being rightfully yours. Am i wrong in this in anyones opinion?
Yes you are wrong. Unless you find being a a thief right.

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Originally Posted by sfustin900
I believe a lot in karma and try to live my life in a pretty moral way but I simply don't think it's my responsibility to go to casino management and alert them of this, and I don't feel my not doing such is in any way being dishonest nor immoral.
You dont sound like you try to live you life if a moral way. Your theory seems to be its ok to steal if its convenient and the victim presents you with an easy opportunity. Its like, Im not a rapist, I have very strong morals, but if I find a girl passed out naked in my backyard I dont think its wrong if I take advantage of the situation.

You sound like an ******* to be quite honest. Id have more respect for you if you just told him to steal the money instead of trying to justify it as being a completely honest move or some ****.
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10-22-2015 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
"what do you mean spent money that was mistakenly placed in my account, I was thinking I deposited a sum larger than that a few weeks ago, silly me."
That just doesn't work. If it's a sum large enough that a person wouldn't reasonably think that it belongs in their account, the bank will press charges for theft if the person withdraws the money rather than reports it. There are people in jail for just that.

I used to have a bank account at Great Western (which rightfully went bankrupt). They used to constantly put money in my checking account. I got tired of reporting it so I was just careful about never touching the excess amount because I knew of the ramifications. There was one amount of $5K which was in my account for over a year before it suddenly disappeared. A lot of people think that if it's the bank's mistake, it's free money; it's not. Remember that it's folks like bankers who get the laws written.
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10-22-2015 , 05:37 AM
I'd keep it and feel kinda guilty.
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10-22-2015 , 05:39 AM
Cash out obviously
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10-22-2015 , 06:54 AM
I think a good general rule for life is: "When you become aware of mistakes - yours or anyone else's - make a good faith effort to correct them."

Trying to do the moral minimum in any situation isn't the path to being awesome or excellent.
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10-22-2015 , 10:10 AM
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You dont sound like you try to live you life if a moral way. Your theory seems to be its ok to steal if its convenient and the victim presents you with an easy opportunity. Its like, Im not a rapist, I have very strong morals, but if I find a girl passed out naked in my backyard I dont think its wrong if I take advantage of the situation.

You sound like an ******* to be quite honest. Id have more respect for you if you just told him to steal the money instead of trying to justify it as being a completely honest move or some ****.
Lol wow you are one angry dumb ****. I guess every person at the horseshoe is a thief for accepting the comps given to them without questioning it. Yeah your totally right it's MY responsibility to go to horseshoe management and tell them that every single poker player at their establishment is being given $3 an hour instead of the advertised $1. And since I and no one else has done this we are all thieves. Thanks for the enlightenment. You sound like the bitter loser that wants everyone else to be losing and mad at anyone's success because your unhappy everyone else should be.
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10-22-2015 , 10:22 AM
There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy innocent poker sites who have made an unfortunate clerical error.
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10-22-2015 , 10:45 AM
Don't listen to the people that are telling you to be honest and report the mistake. That course of action is for people with personal honor and integrity. You are a poker player. Your goal should be to be as sleazy as possible. Cheat as much as possible. Scam as much as possible. Think of the greats in the industry. Doyle and Chip. Howard Lederer and Jesus Ferguson. Annie Duke. Russ Hamilton and the Ultimate Bet pros. The Full Tilt pros. The Lock Poker pros.
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10-22-2015 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sfustin900
Lol wow you are one angry dumb ****. I guess every person at the horseshoe is a thief for accepting the comps given to them without questioning it. Yeah your totally right it's MY responsibility to go to horseshoe management and tell them that every single poker player at their establishment is being given $3 an hour instead of the advertised $1. And since I and no one else has done this we are all thieves. Thanks for the enlightenment. You sound like the bitter loser that wants everyone else to be losing and mad at anyone's success because your unhappy everyone else should be.
No, it just sounds like he thinks you're a thief trying to justify your actions.
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10-22-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Josem
I think a good general rule for life is: "When you become aware of mistakes - yours or anyone else's - make a good faith effort to correct them."

Trying to do the moral minimum in any situation isn't the path to being awesome or excellent.
Sticky this, please.
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10-22-2015 , 05:26 PM
I bought stamps from the machine at the post office the other day. I paid for one book, two books came out. I went inside and waited in line to return the second book.

True story.
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10-22-2015 , 05:36 PM
Personally, I would attempt to cash out if the money were worth it for me quit play on the site. Otherwise best to report.
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10-22-2015 , 05:40 PM
Just continue to play and see what happens. If it is left dormant in there for a while then cash it out. **** the sites, and lol at 'doing the right thing'.
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10-22-2015 , 05:40 PM
If you can cash out the points and withdrawal the monies.....I say go for it. Maybe an idea would be to cash it in for tourney dollars and play some high stakes! At least you're recirculating the dough and gives you a lot of upside if you bink something. No way in hell you get in any real trouble if things go south anyway. Maybe just a site ban at worse.
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10-22-2015 , 05:55 PM
If its on an Ipoker skin or microgaming then go for it and cash it out. All that will happen is you will get a site ban. Just move to different skin. If its pokerstars or tilt then obviously if they do find out you are off those sites for good.
I dont care what others are saying. It's online poker afterall. Every once in a while the little guy gets lucky too.
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10-22-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver
There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy innocent poker sites who have made an unfortunate clerical error.
Ha ha! The rewritten gospel according to Tarantino and ZeckoRiver not Ezekiel.
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10-22-2015 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sfustin900
Lol wow you are one angry dumb ****. I guess every person at the horseshoe is a thief for accepting the comps given to them without questioning it. Yeah your totally right it's MY responsibility to go to horseshoe management and tell them that every single poker player at their establishment is being given $3 an hour instead of the advertised $1. And since I and no one else has done this we are all thieves. Thanks for the enlightenment. You sound like the bitter loser that wants everyone else to be losing and mad at anyone's success because your unhappy everyone else should be.
Do you what the word "common" means? If you do, I think the phrase "common crook" describes you perfectly.

I think the fact that you justify your behavior by someone else doing it, makes you common.

Took one second with google: define common

2.
showing a lack of taste and refinement; vulgar.
synonyms: uncouth, vulgar, coarse, rough, boorish, unladylike, ungentlemanly, ill-bred, uncivilized, unrefined, unsophisticated; lowly, low-born, low-class, inferior, proletarian, plebeian, low-ranking
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10-22-2015 , 10:03 PM
If money worth more than ev of grinding on the site then report. If no cash the **** out ASAP
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