They tell me I cant get rakeback because my account was linked with an affiliate.

Not true.

I downloaded their software on their homepage, didnt even know about rakeback or any other bonuses back than.


First they even told me they cant give me further information about this, next email they gave me flopturnriver.com as affiliate and I emailed them to get a confirmation but no reply in 4 days now.

anyone had same experience and solved it somehow?

if you had flopturnriver.com's cookies on your computer when downloading the software you're linked to them

Back when? how long ago are you talking? and you can honestly say you never had any cookies on your computer before downloading?

They're probably screwing the affiliate too. A player knows how much he plays and how much rakeback he's entitled (at least roughly). The affiliate wouldn't have ANY idea.

what happens if you have cookies from two or three different affiliates?

At how does visiting a site make someone your affiliate? What if it wasn't even you then visited that site (say a family member did, unbeknown to you).

I think this whole "sign up through an affiliate" is utter rubbish. Why can't sites offer the rakeback directly themselves?

I think the whole discussion of affiliates is perverse. A lot of these sites using cookes have been profiting from a lot of players that are unaware of being affiliated to them. All fair game imo, until the user wants to change their affiliate. If the user was unaware of the affiliate when signing up, they should have the right to change it to their choice. Definitely if enough years have passed and there was no extra bonus or promotion involved at sign up. At the end of the day, it's your account and your business. Now you're tied to a lifelong contract without knowing it sometimes.

FTP does. rakebackpros.com

As I explained earlier, the cookies are from fulltilt. Why would FT care if you visited an affiliate? That's why the affiliate wants you to uninstall FT and clear your cookie cache. Kind of hard to convince FT that you found out about FT from an affiliate when you already have FT software on your computer.

I don't think merely having a cookie from an affiliate in your browser makes them your affiliate. You have to sign up with FT through the affiliate. Can an affiliate clear up this cookie issue?

So some 3rd party site advertised for full tilt on their own dime...got tilt a new player, and you want that 3rd party site "not" to get paid for their hard work?

go play another site or suck it up imo

Simply visiting XYZ poker affiliate website isn't going to place a cookie on someone's computer that will link them to an affiliate. The cookie gets placed there when a player goes to FT or any poker site for that matter through a banner or text link on the affiliate site, forum, or whatever site the person is viewing. The other possible way for a player to get tracked would be if they used whatever unique signup bonus code is being promoted by the affiliate site.

oh lol, sry

Affiliates can track the stats of their referred players on most sites.

lol, wrong thread bro.

Online poker is as big as it is mainly due to these affiliates. Way back when it started rakeback wasn't even considered. The sites simply paid affiliates to bring them customers. Over time some of the affiliates started giving some of their money back to entice new customers and it went from there.

If you weren't smart enough to sign up for rakeback then I don't think you should get it. The affiliate that brought you to the site should get the money and use some of it to go find some more fish.

Quit crying and go play somewhere else.

stop beeing an ******* and stfu

What about if rakeback *didn't exist* at the time you signed up for your account? That isn't a question of being smart or not. It's just 'you got randomly ****ed and now you have to play on a different site'. No great loss I guess.

When I signed up at Full Tilt, about 3 years ago, I specifically asked for a small affiliate's referral link, through which I signed up. Not knowing much about how rakeback worked, I just assumed everything was ok and then asked where my rakeback was about a month or so later. He asked what I was talking about as he has no record of me signing up.

Full Tilt tells me I must have previously visited some other site many moons before that which linked me to some other jackass and sorry bout your damn luck, but you're screwed even though I specifically asked for this person's link (owner of an old poker forum I used to post on) and I'm sure he sent me the correct link which I signed up through.

Long story short, bye bye Full Tilt as soon as I cleared the signup bonus and hello Stars. Now I only play tournaments on Tilt sometimes and when they give me an easily clearable bonus.

That's odd. This response to the post you quoted... seems like you both are saying the same thing.

think about it ******, the affiliates advertising to bring all different players to full tilt in the first place create a large portion of the fish which you take money off. calling them sleazy is so ******ed.

you are in an unfortunate spot i suggest you sign up in a family name to get rakeback.

What do you mean?Is there a chance to sign up in Full Tilt through an affiliate that gives you rakeback and not take rakeback at the end?
Btw what is this thing with cookies?I saw some instructions in some rakeback sites about deleting cookies before signing up but nothing in www.rakebackpros.com

Actually i m asking all this because i m thinking of signing up with full tilt through www.rakebackpros.com and depositing about 2k$
Is there the slightest chance for not getting rakeback?

If you've never had an account at FT then signing up through RakebackPros is about the worst thing you could do. They give players nothing extra just rakeback. There are so many large reputable affiliates who you can give you the same rakeback as well as extras such as monthly freerolls, rake races, training site subscriptions, etc. I would seriously suggest doing some more homework before setting up a new account through RakebackPros. The only people who should use RakebackPros are those with an existing FullTilt account who don't have rakeback but aren't already attached to an affiliate.

As far as being worried about a cookie messing up your tracking you simply need to follow the signup instructions at the rakeback site you sign up through and make sure you delete your cookies before clicking through any link and creating a FT account.

+1 for the guy that said you should be able to change your affiliate. I personally vote with my rake dollar, as I massively multi-table stars while only playing 1-2 tables on FTP (I wouldn't play at all, but stars runs out of games).

I'll start off by saying I'm one of the lucky ones with rakeback, but you shouldn't blame players who signed up before they even knew what rakeback was.

FTP should have never have given affiliates lifetime rakeback payments for players they refer. Stars for example pays a flat commission for each player referred.
It is a ******ed to rely on a third party to "reward" players. The site itself should be the one giving rakeback directly to the player, and paying affiliates with a 1-time commission instead.

Nothing said in this thread will change anything. If you don't have rakeback play on a different site. Not much else you can do.

As far as I know FTP pays rakeback directly. The affiliate earns a commission on top of that for their referral (usually net revenue over the lifetime of the player). Some affiliates probably have worked out a CPA deal (per player) but not the ones who offer rakeback. Obviously any Stars affiliate that gets a one time lump payment for their referrals are not referring rakeback players.

If you email them and tell them you're not going to play there and ACTUALLY DON'T play there then they will give you rakeback through rakebackpros.com. This is what I did and what my roomate tried to do, except he continued to play there.... I got rakeback on my account in just under a week and he is still waiting for his. It might depend on how much you actually contribute in rake but this should work. You can't threaten not to play there and not follow through with it though. Just my .02