I don't play UB. I don't play AP. And I sure as hell won't play FTP ever again even under new ownership.

These European investors are buying a spoiled brand. They are doing business with the ownership that screwed me. How could I in good conscious ignore the fact these investors are PAYING the old ownership for their software.

I may prefer FTP's software to Stars, but I can't ignore the fact that whenever the **** hits the fan, Stars protects its players. They didn't bail on the US after UIGEA. When the DOJ came after them, Stars immediately paid out the US players. THAT'S the company that deserves my business.

**** my software preferences. This is bigger than that.

As long as people wont be able to detach from their egos and think "business" - these kind of concerns will be popular. ("FTP ****ed me" "they screwed me" "i will never play FTP because they were mean to me")

Its the same as with UB/AP thing. Some people didnt play the site because of principle, some because they thought their money wasnt safe and didnt wanted to take the risk of losing it. Some people played there and made a lot of money and were willing to take the risk. I respect both - those who didnt want to risk and those who decided to risk - but those who didnt play there just because of some principle - while they saw the games are good - well thats just bad "business" thinking UNLESS they werent in it for the money - hobbyists.

So stop trying to push your opinion on those people that are willing to play FTP even after everything that has happned so far. If they offer good bonuses i dont mind leaving some small pat of my roll there and grind them out and go from there...

I don't care if they ****ed me. They were my source of making a living. If they came back, I would just make sure to never have more than like 1k on there at a time and just grind Rush. They can kill old people and light orphanages on fire and I don't care as long as they allow me to make a living on their site.

Maybe we know where player funds are afterall....gg

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...m-ftp-1075324/

Imo they need some serious changes and a long time to recup. But we will see

Choice Poker of Dobrosoft Software went belly up years ago and even they made arrangements to get their players money back in a little less than a years passing with the help of a second party. They didn't have to make the effort but they did for the players sake. It was noble and honest. Even months after they stopped taking players deposits and the site was shut down they still had somebody to answer emails from customers. Full Tilt seems to be the opposite of this philosophy. They don't have the integrity to communicate with players. They don't know what common courtesy is to the players they owe hundreds of millions of dollars to. They keep paying their employees with our money while the site is shut down. To them that is being noble. To me that is theft. They need to give some answers soon or everyone associated with FTP who took millions and millions in 'salary and loans' from the player pool should be black listed and shunned for life.

good **** ..

They are not coming back is my guess.

I want my ****ing money back or I'll kill someone seriously ****ing *******s.

learn to cheat, steal and run like the pros!!

Full Tilt Poker Memorial Service Parody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-0H...ature=youtu.be

Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? ...

ffs the USA economy is so ****ed at the moment and they are spending resources on cracking down on internet poker?? wtf is wrong with your government....

legalise online gambling and tax it, wont solve the problem but will help it!

Surprise surprise it came last

Ray

How much do you exactly have invested in there that is worth killing for? I'm sure there are people who could use your services.

If there's something that I hate in this life is someone owing me money. The number doesn't matter, I just want my money back. It's mine and they STOLE it.

What if they didn't steal it , but just p...ed it away because they were business morons? Death or life in soilitary, or not guilty due to mental incompetence? Don't blame you for being angry about this crap!

I just want the world to end so I don't have to keep reading about all this bad ****ing news in it. USA's economy is gonna fold, FTP won't pay any of us, and the rest of the world will just take our country over because we have no money.

That's the spirit.

sigh some part of me agrees with you, really depressing stuff

From http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/1683...-renewal.thtml August 2nd 2011:

Full Tilt Poker (FTP) has secured a renewal of its Secondary Client Provider Authorization (CPA) for its Kolyma company in the jurisdiction of Kahnawake, despite the continued suspension of its Alderney and French licences.

The Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC), regulatory authority for the Canadian-based Mohawk territory, issued an official statement explaining that the renewal would last for two years, although it clarified that it would be “Closely monitoring the proceedings being conducted by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC)”.

Under the terms of Kahnawake regulations, “All Client Provider Authorizations issued by the Commission must be appended to a valid Interactive Gaming License,” and are “only valid and enforceable for so long as the Interactive Gaming License to which it is appended is in good standing”.

Normal circumstances require those with suspended licences to re-apply for a Secondary CPA, although it is unknown whether FTP did so in advance of this ruling from the KGC.

The regulations state that “In the event the license from the primary jurisdiction is suspended, revoked or allowed to lapse, the holder of a Secondary Client Provider Authorization must, within thirty (30) days, apply for a Client Provider Authorization under these Regulations, failing which the Commission may suspend or revoke the Secondary Client Provider Authorization.

This re-application may have been deemed unnecessary on the basis of the AGCC’s comments to Kahnawake regulators, where it was explained that “[A]lthough the eGambling Licences held by Filco Limited [doing business as Full Tilt Poker] are presently suspended pending the outcome of a hearing, these licences are still considered to be valid.”

As well as a decision on Kolyma, the end of July was also supposed to be the deadline for the renewal of Blanca Games’ primary operating licence in Kahnawake. However, the KGC is yet to issue a statement on the Absolute Poker owner, whose Cereus network has experienced a year-on-year traffic decline of 98% according to the latest figures from Pokerscout. As of mid-July, discussions between the parties were still ongoing.

The KGC has, however, revoked the secondary CPA of a further company, Telton Limited, which had been operating under the GalaxiWorld brand name. The decision was made “Following a Show Cause proceeding conducted by the Commission,” although no further details were provided by the commission.

ok so what does this mean then?

I guess Khanawakee is not the most trustworthy licence provider out there in the first place, and the reasoning that the alderny licence has not been revoked but rather only suspended can be a good sign (as in they are speaking to each other and alderny told them not to worry) or a bad/neutral sign (as in, we are using every loophole to continue and collect our fees)... the only thing that can be drawn from this is that apparently somebody at FTP still cares about licences and is acctually doing some work... not the worst news considering the deathening silence surounding this issue from their end...

Does this mean that FTP in theory could move to Kahnawake and open FTP if they want to ?

Sure! Why not? They (FTP) don't make bad business decisions! Mohawks have always been good allies to Brits! And anyway who really needs a licence if you want to be #2 again??