I don't think I've ever seen a thread where someone laid everything out from the beginning and was treated badly. I also don't think I've seen very many threads like that. All these "zomg FTP's scamming me!" threads start out leaving out information, like the whole "Oh, I used to have an account, but I closed it and started a new one" so people tend to stop responding nicely.

QFT

No that's understandable because it's happened to me many times.

This situation has NEVER happened like where's the live chat to talk with these people. Communication is essential to good business.

Also I deposited Monday night around 8:00 PM eastern so it's been longer then 2 days. And the last time I deposited was to play a $50 multi table and the money was available to use immediately and that was on the 21st of Janurary 2009. So you can see why I am confused and why I acted the way I did. At least some people understand, because as an American customer we are put in a horrible positions where we have to 'trust' these people with no one on our side to regulate. If you guys are that naive and trusting then that's your business I on the other am not the type of person to sit back and be taken advantage of unless it's by a good looking woman.

46 hours is > 2 days now?

OP, care to explain why you had your first account closed? You seem to be avoiding that question. I think most people will be able to determine if you are telling the truth or not.

math is rigged IMO

Are people still seriously trying to help OP. He's been nothing more than comic relief as far as I can tell. He's making up his own rules for the world and doesn't care whether they're valid or not. Other than wanting him to be able to lose money to the community I see no reason to help him.

Really I'm shocked that there isn't more love for the email where FTP is supposed to respond in 30 minutes or else. LOL

Why do people think online poker is illegal? I guess the government did a good job of brainwashing...

OP do you think FullTilt doesn't want your business because you are such a stand up guy that doesn't do any shady things? Idiots like you just need to pull the trigger already!!!!!

OP should have been immediately 2+2 banned for this suggestion.

kinda reminds me of this fella...
yeah, whoever gets these "discounted" funds will have their account locked and will have to start a thread about that!

I want to see the email full tilt sent him when they replied to his wrong email address on his first email.

Because that response was from just a front-line customer service rep. You account has been assigned to someone in their security department because of your multi-accounting and so that is going to take longer. The assigned person might have a day off -- they might not be done investigating yet -- for all we know there is more than just multi-accounting going on.

Taking the funds out of BOA is great. You'll end up with a nice NSF fee and assuming FTP would allow you to have your account back after this they won't.

No. I really can't see why anyone would take the fees and commit fraud just because they locked your account and have not gotten back to you immediately. FWIW, others in these forums have had their accounts locked and have had delays hearing back from support and they don't even have the slightest clue what the issue was (whereas you had a pretty good idea it had something to do with the multiple accounts) and they didn't see it justified to take actions even remotely similar to yours.

Your response accomplishes pretty much nothing except breaking the law and making sure you get to pay extra charges/fess. If it was just a multiple account thing then FT would have straightened it out and gotten the money back to you somehow anyway. If it was your own problem with a bounced check thing you still had plenty of time to get the funds in there to straighten it all out. Everything would have been fine if you hadn't taken the action that you did so I don't understand why you would go about taking action that makes things worse (or at least more costly for you).

And I certainly don't understand how you can believe your own actions to somehow be legal/justified.

In many cases it is hard to lay everything out.
You don't expect the problems in advance and often it is not clear -or at least to the OP- what the problem is. Also people tend to ask for irrelevant information and judge the OP is a fraud if he can't provide it. OP's will seldom get the benefit of the doubt and are deliberately given little or no chance to straighten out misunderstandings. We rather want to keep these.

OP's usually don't know about the 100 threads before and make their post out of frustration first.

It was inaccessable he said.
I believe that because of my own experience.

The thing is OP, if you had just waited it out they would have A) either let you play or B) Allowed you to cash out the money you had deposited. (Unless you course you had previously scammed for money). So basically all you have done here is cause unnecessary fees for yourself. FTP is out nothing except what seems to be a multi-accounter.

So you are saying your account has been "inaccessable" (however that works) so they've just said "okay, go ahead and set up a new account"?

Somehow I find that hard to believe.

Yep, I know how it goes, I say the wrong things, I am a fraud.

Hyperbole much?

Please quote the part where anyone called you a fraud.

From all our experiences, FTP never tells people to open a second account and routinely locks people who open second accounts for any reason. We've seen dozens of threads like this, so, yeah, if you're going to get anyone to believe anything different you may just have to do a little better than, "This happened to me too".

FTP gets a lot of well deserved criticism for their poor customer support, but in cases like this of multi-accounting it's very reasonable to believe the player does not have clean hands either.

sorry I'm late

Chargebacks are for credit cards, not checks. He is about to cause his check to bounce. Banks have procedures for customers to use when they have been the victim of a fraudulent transaction. Removing all of your money in anticipation of a check being cashed is not one of them. It is illegal.

Cry is the main reason why I better not post what happened to me.
He has already been on my case when I dared to do so 2 years ago and then used his status on this forum to make sure nobody took me serious.
When I tried again a year later, much better prepared this time, the exact same thing happened and I find it hard to believe that was a coincedence.

Not only does he (ab)use his forum status, but he is manipulative in other ways as well.
For example he likes to put words in your mouth -I never mentioned any trouble with FT, where does he get that?- and then tell everybody that/you can't be right.
Or he uses the majestatis pluralis as if he speaks for the whole forum.

He understands very well the OP isn't a fraud but still insinuates he does not have clean hands.
He also knows very well most people rather gang up on one guy than be reasonable so that isn't a very responsible thing to do to say the least.

So why did your first account become "inaccessible"?

How is removing money from your account so that an echeck will be denied anything but fraud?

And lol at CMAR "picking on you".

I am not discussing that, may be it is, I have no idea.


CMAR isn't just picking on me, but on anybody who will post something simular, usually within an hour or so.
He has never posted in any of my other threads in the past three years!
What does that tell you if you know he has an average of 5 posts per day?
Still coincedence you think?
I was talking about him really when I mentioned the same people always giving the same comments.

You lol at that, but this is some kind of modern censorship.

That word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.