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FTP rakeback fiasco is unethical! FTP rakeback fiasco is unethical!

11-11-2009 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gtpitch
you can eat **** *****s
I wasn't included. The email was very clear on that.


24KJ- noU
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11-11-2009 , 05:42 PM
this is not a human rights issue dude. it is how they choose to run their business and there is basically nothing you can do about it (other than taking your business elsewhere).

i think it is unfair that veterans or old people get discounts at XXX business, just because they are old/were in the forces. come on people, stand up for your 5% discount on bus fares!
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11-11-2009 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
The only way to get rakeback from FTP is by signing up with a referral code from some affiliate.
Or to email FTP and rakebackpros.com and ask for rakeback. I did that last fall and after a couple of months got rakeback, as did a whole bunch of other people. Search the forums.
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11-11-2009 , 05:51 PM
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Examples of rights and freedoms which have come to be commonly thought of as human rights include civil and political rights, such as the right to life and liberty, freedom of expression, and equality before the law; and economic, social and cultural rights, including the right to participate in culture, the right to food, the right to rakeback, and the right to education.
I'll be damned, OP is right.
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11-11-2009 , 05:55 PM
I'm now rooting for OP to never get RB.
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11-11-2009 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
I'm as serious as a 40 hr/week grinder that doesn't get rakeback!!!
I didn't have Rakeback when I first signed up for FTP, but I was then informed that I can e-mail rakebackpros.com , explain the situation, asked for rakeback etc etc etc. They e-mailed me back saying I'd be on a list and they review my account play, and within 8 weeks I had rakeback...
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11-11-2009 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize
I didn't have Rakeback when I first signed up for FTP, but I was then informed that I can e-mail rakebackpros.com , explain the situation, asked for rakeback etc etc etc. They e-mailed me back saying I'd be on a list and they review my account play, and within 8 weeks I had rakeback...
"review account play" = Selective rakeback. Point proven.
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11-11-2009 , 10:20 PM
24KJ,

I don't have a FT account. Which affiliate do you think is the best for rakeback on Tilt?

TIA
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11-11-2009 , 10:25 PM
after I emailed support and asked a few times I got RB via rakebackpros...it probably took me 6 months and 3-4 emails but eventually I got it...have you tried this? or do you think throwing mud at ftp is a better option?
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11-11-2009 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans
24KJ,

I don't have a FT account. Which affiliate do you think is the best for rakeback on Tilt?

TIA
I don't want to post something here that is considered spam. This post is to important to be closed. So if you can PM me or something I would be happy to help.
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11-11-2009 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dnparks
after I emailed support and asked a few times I got RB via rakebackpros...it probably took me 6 months and 3-4 emails but eventually I got it...have you tried this? or do you think throwing mud at ftp is a better option?
I received an email from FTP awhile ago directing me to a site that I needed to site up with. I emailed them several times over a period of time. That's why I posted this. How is stating a very obvious fact throwing mud?
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11-11-2009 , 10:30 PM
god damn not another one of these threads
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11-11-2009 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
"review account play" = Selective rakeback. Point proven.
Why do you care if other people get it or not? Are you out for a lawsuit, or just to get your rakeback ?

Last edited by Pork Fri Rize; 11-11-2009 at 10:57 PM.
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11-11-2009 , 10:50 PM
I bought an HDTV last year and just the other day my buddy bought the SAME TV for less money! Unethical! I'm going to go to the store and demand they give me the difference back!

Also, my friend only pays $30 a month for his gym membership because he got it while they were having a special promo! Unethical!
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11-11-2009 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize
Why do you care if other people get it or not, are you out for a lawsuit, or just to get your rakeback
Because full tilt charges some of its players 27 percent less than those who receive rakeback. OP my advice to you is to do what I did. Email full tilt and tell them you refuse to play at their site without rakeback. Then withdraw your funds and move to stars. They will fold. I was exclusively at stars for about a month before they finally offered rakeback to me.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...keback-205425/
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11-11-2009 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
Well guess what for all those that signed up to FTP before rakeback was even possible, you're screwed.
i may be grunching but this is simply not true.

i signed up at FTP day 1. there was no affiliate programs when the site launched.

recently i asked for RB and got it [within 4 days].

Last edited by GrannyMae; 11-11-2009 at 11:20 PM.
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11-11-2009 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
The general consensus I'm seeing is the solution to not getting rakeback from FTP is to not play on FTP. This is so ridiculous that you guys just walk away from a fight for your rights. This post is for people who demand EQUAL RIGHTS. Enough is enough. How can FTP keep spitting in peoples faces like this and nobody cares or does anything?

To the sheeple who say just play somewhere else, I say to you wake up and get your fellow poker players back. Having a blasé attitude about this is just a reflection on this f'ed up industry as a whole. This is why online poker isnt being regulated.

"Just play somewhere else" is an easy out for losers.

Stand up for something once and it gets easier to stand up for something again.
You wouldn't be surprised that these same "new generation" players act the same way when it comes to how much the sites rake.

Sorry dude, the player pool is so diluted now it's no longer "our" game, and getting players to come together on issues that affect the game is just not gonna happen.

lol at what the wsop has become, there's another example. Just do what YOU can, man. Make all your decisions on what's best for you, never mind trying to do something for the game or the community as a whole.
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11-11-2009 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize
Why do you care if other people get it or not? Are you out for a lawsuit, or just to get your rakeback ?
i just want my rakeback so I can play at my fav site. This is ridiculous.
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11-12-2009 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
I don't want to post something here that is considered spam. This post is to important to be closed. So if you can PM me or something I would be happy to help.
I think that was a joke...

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Originally Posted by 24KJ
"review account play" = Selective rakeback. Point proven.
All sites have selective programs. Different affilates have different bonuses etc etc.

Just the way the industry is. Sucks you got caught out. I was lucky the FTP bonus wasn't very appealing at the time and I played other sites by which time i became aware of rb and made sure i signed up for it.

I don't have a problem with selective marketing. Why give something to a player who would play anyway without it?

The biggest problem FTP has is to give you rb when you signed up via x affilate means breaking the affilate agreement they made. I don't really have a solution for this except working with the affilate to see if they can convince them to change you over. If your unattached they seem willing to give you rb.
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11-12-2009 , 12:43 AM
How is this thread even open.
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11-12-2009 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Frylock
I signed up with Tilt in 04 just to watch games and never deposited or was transferred real money (I'm a nit, I know). I'm not sure RB existed at the time but I just signed up directly with the site.

I have been requesting RB for six months and have been continuously put off. This cause me to play on other sites such as Cake, Carbon, Doyles Room just to name a few. It sucks b/c it's hard to get as much action as I'd like at most of these other sites. I will not play on Tilt until the grant me RB, but it's hardly unethical, just a extremely bad business decision.
If you have never deposited or played for real money, simply make a new account and deposit. Full Tilt counts your first real money account as your "First Account" and even if they find you with 2 accounts, they will close the PLAY money account and let you play on the real money account.

If you don't believe me, try depositing $50 (or some other small amount), play for a while and email them and tell them that you have two accounts. You will get the standard template telling you that you cannot have two, and your other account (the play money one) will be "permanently closed".

You have nothing to lose.
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11-12-2009 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GrannyMae
i may be grunching but this is simply not true.

i signed up at FTP day 1. there was no affiliate programs when the site launched.

recently i asked for RB and got it [within 4 days].
Depends where you signed up apparantly, if you signed up later through some affiliates you are screwed. I checked into this last year.

I think its kind of dumb since I never play on FT outside of some MTT's now so they make 100% of 0 instead of 73% of rake. Lol at "unethical" though. Unethical would be promising that if you started to give them play they would give you rakeback and then not following through or something like that.
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11-12-2009 , 03:32 AM
RB isn't something that FT gives players when they sign up. FT pays affiliates for bringing them new players. Some of them get a one-time payment for this, others get a share of your rake. Some of those affiliates choose to give a portion back to the players, and FT facilitates this for them. If you aren't getting RB, it's either because you signed up directly to the site, or you did so through an affiliate that doesn't give RB. If you're in the second category, they've already paid that affiliate for your business, and they apparently place a higher value on not breaking their agreement with those affiliates then they do on giving you the RB you want. That's a business decision. If you're in the first category, they are giving many players like you RB through rakebackpros.

And has been mentioned, if you signed up with FT before the days of RB, they offered you an opportunity to convert your account a couple of years ago.
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11-12-2009 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 24KJ
i just want my rakeback so I can play at my fav site. This is ridiculous.
If you want to discuss this then go to the 'official rakebackpros and rakeback for existing players at full tilt' thread in the rakeback section. There are at least 3 new threads a week regarding this that are merged into that one.
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11-17-2009 , 11:41 AM
So after months and months, RBpros finally responded to me. They asked me for my FTP username and said they will get back to me. YA RIGHT. NOW I"M WAITING AGAIN. whats the deal with this BS. How long will I have to wait this time?
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