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01-22-2010 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rrayden
Please add a hotkey for FOLDING! Seriously how hard is that to implement? A mirrion wrists would thank you for this.
Use tableninja?? - the fold hotkey also works with Quick Fold!
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01-22-2010 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevire
Use tableninja?? - the fold hotkey also works with Quick Fold!
FTP should still come out w/ hotkeys so that you do not need 3rd party. I assume maybe 10% of player use hotkeys at most. Hell, most regs don't use hotkeys on FTP to my knowledge (idk about stars). If it was implemented into FTP, games would run faster.
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01-22-2010 , 10:24 AM
I just want to fold by not using the ****ing mouse for that also! Is it too much to ask??
I don't need no table ninjas to auto set my bets, to auto activate time-banks to slow everyone down or whatever else they're doing...

And basically what john voight said.
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01-22-2010 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
+1, this is one of the biggest keys to RP's continued success.
Agreed.

I think it will ruin a great innovation by FTP is Huds come back to this game. People calling for this should stop and think about the effect on these games would be if huds came back. EVERYBODY would have a hud not just you!

I cant see the benefit to FT of allowing people to use huds in rush poker either.
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01-22-2010 , 10:35 AM
Will FTP consider increasing the CAP on NL&PLO tables to 50bb?
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01-22-2010 , 10:56 AM
love the non-observed tables on Rush Poker. Can that be given as an option for regular games as well.
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01-22-2010 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
+1, this is one of the biggest keys to RP's continued success.
I am curious about this too.....
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01-22-2010 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PenelopeCruz
please make it against TOS to use a HUD with RUSH. HUDs will ruin the game imo
Actually they have already, they don't allow scraping which essentially means that you can't get the information in real time without interfacing with the game as it is being played. So it is already against their TOS and any program that interfaces with their client would likely be banned immediately.
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01-22-2010 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by beanie
Actually they have already, they don't allow scraping which essentially means that you can't get the information in real time without interfacing with the game as it is being played. So it is already against their TOS and any program that interfaces with their client would likely be banned immediately.
TableNinja screen scrapes
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01-22-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rrayden
Please add a hotkey for FOLDING! Seriously how hard is that to implement? A mirrion wrists would thank you for this.
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Originally Posted by john voight
FTP should still come out w/ hotkeys so that you do not need 3rd party. I assume maybe 10% of player use hotkeys at most. Hell, most regs don't use hotkeys on FTP to my knowledge (idk about stars). If it was implemented into FTP, games would run faster.
+1
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01-22-2010 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PenelopeCruz
please make it against TOS to use a HUD with RUSH. HUDs will ruin the game imo
If you can and will enforce it, then fine. If you're unwilling to enforce, or need to ruin the client/experience to stop it, then don't.
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01-22-2010 , 12:04 PM
can TableNinjaFT be used to quick-fold even from BB?
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01-22-2010 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by muckingthenuts
FTPDoug, you already have tournies where you can cash out an amount of chips for equity in half of a prize pool, and you have 'run it twice'. How about when all in in a cash game, the guy whose ahead has an option (preselected, of course), to 'cash out my equity'. I'd rather just take my 80% with pair vs pair every time than allegedly win 4/5 (or whatever the EXACT odds are). Then, the fish consistently get part of their money back, too.
There is the germ of a good idea here though the application is wrong. People will certainly pay for the opportunity to reduce volatility in business (e.g. buying options and futures contracts) and this applies equally to poker. This could be implemented as an option to sell you insurance on a hand based on its mathematical equity. This would not affect the money being paid to the other player if he should win. If you win, you win the pot minus the insurance premium. If you lose the pot, you are paid the mathematical equity at the time the insurance was bought. I'd buy it in order to dampen the equity swings as long as the premium were not overpriced.

An additional thought here although it may not be feasible : in the financial markets, there are buyers and sellers of volatility. Perhaps there could be the creation of "bad beat bonds" which people buy in order to take on the volatility that is rejected by the players buying insurance? The bonds (based on a bundle of hands) either pay the premiums paid by the volatility-averse players if the hands hold up or suffer a loss if the insurance must pay out to the insurance purchasers.

Both of these options are potential profit centers for Full tilt. In the first case, they take the insurance premiums as extra profit. In the second case, they take a fee for creating the bonds that are then sold to those who wish to buy the volatility.
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01-22-2010 , 12:32 PM
About PTR: why don't you guys simply prevent observing without logging in? This seems like such a simple step, but almost all poker sites seem to allow it, so i'm guessing there must be some reason for it. I just can't think what.

I know PTR could still just register tons of accounts, but maybe you could do something like limit observed tables to 2 or so until the account has made a deposit, or verified identity, or played X number of play money hands, or something. Basically something to make it impractical to spam-register tons of accounts just for observing, but still allow legitimate users to observe.
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01-22-2010 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lien
can TableNinjaFT be used to quick-fold even from BB?
No, all it does is click a button on the table, if there's no button then it cant click it.
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01-22-2010 , 12:51 PM
All complaining about HUDs on Rush, there will 100% be HUDs of some form because the demand will be too great, and plenty of people will work around whatever restrictions Full Tilt tries to implement.

If nothing else I'll write a program for my own use that automates the process of taking notes and uses FTP's own notes interface to put all the stats in there. Are they going to ban taking notes?
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01-22-2010 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
All complaining about HUDs on Rush, there will 100% be HUDs of some form because the demand will be too great, and plenty of people will work around whatever restrictions Full Tilt tries to implement.

If nothing else I'll write a program for my own use that automates the process of taking notes and uses FTP's own notes interface to put all the stats in there. Are they going to ban taking notes?
I fear you are probably right.

Sad thing is most of the people that play those games and 'zomg i want my hud' dont realise they will a big negative effect on rush poker.
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01-22-2010 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
About PTR: why don't you guys simply prevent observing without logging in? This seems like such a simple step, but almost all poker sites seem to allow it, so i'm guessing there must be some reason for it. I just can't think what.

I know PTR could still just register tons of accounts, but maybe you could do something like limit observed tables to 2 or so until the account has made a deposit, or verified identity, or played X number of play money hands, or something. Basically something to make it impractical to spam-register tons of accounts just for observing, but still allow legitimate users to observe.
Some excellent ideas right here!
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01-22-2010 , 02:25 PM
The ability to observe random rush games with names anonymized as SB/CO/BTN/etc would be interesting.

Also, FTP has something big with rush right now. HUDs are probably going to have a seriously negative impact it though, and they're inevitable. FTP needs to preempt this in the software. One simple way would be to allow players to pick and use an alias before each rush session.
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01-22-2010 , 04:22 PM
FTP Doug,

Just out of curiosity, how long was the Rush Poker format in the making before it's debut? Also, will FT be implementing 5nl into Rush as well? That could be interesting.
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01-22-2010 , 04:23 PM
Add shallow tables to rush. And lots of split pot games. Hell, just add one of everything to rush.
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01-22-2010 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by beanie
Actually they have already, they don't allow scraping which essentially means that you can't get the information in real time without interfacing with the game as it is being played. So it is already against their TOS and any program that interfaces with their client would likely be banned immediately.
Where do you see this in writing, or are you making this up?

TN, poker shortcuts, and any "bet pot" script scrapes, and it seems to be allowed. My biggest concern with the rush game is that a small subset of the population has the scraping technology to get names off the table. All they need to do is add that to their own custom hud to get a working version of a hud for rush. FT obviously needs to decide if they will or will not allow HUDs in the game. If they do NOT want huds, they need to have a way of ensuring that the small subset of the population that can program their own hud can not use it. Otherwise, you are creating an unfair playing environment.
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01-22-2010 , 05:27 PM
Once Rush Poker is fully rolled out, how about SnG style lobbies for Rush games and stakes that normally wouldn't have enough players to go? Just like a SnG needs X number of players before it starts, an unfilled Rush Poker lobby would need X number of players before the rush begins.

Out of curiousity, what's the minimum player pool for rush to work?
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01-22-2010 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
All complaining about HUDs on Rush, there will 100% be HUDs of some form because the demand will be too great, and plenty of people will work around whatever restrictions Full Tilt tries to implement.

If nothing else I'll write a program for my own use that automates the process of taking notes and uses FTP's own notes interface to put all the stats in there. Are they going to ban taking notes?

How does cake keep them off the site?
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01-22-2010 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FTPDoug

F. Bug fixes:we've fixed ... the new table not appearing when you get moved tables in a tournament bug.
Thanks for fixing this, but it sure would have been nice if the people from Full Tilt that responded to my emails at least admitted there was a problem instead of trying to blame it on my computer or connection.

Still debating whether I'm coming back...
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