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10-31-2009 , 05:39 AM

#101

pulsar220

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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

True, but if you were underage and got busted fair and square, would you start a thread about how you were "wronged" by FT simply because you are a minor? Not much of a leg to stand on.

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10-31-2009 , 06:35 AM

#102

blackize

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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

True, but if you were underage and got busted fair and square, would you start a thread about how you were "wronged" by FT simply because you are a minor? Not much of a leg to stand on.

Perhaps but we've seen tons of colluders/botters/hackers and what have you defend themselves to the last breath in an effort to smear FTP or Stars or get the word out. I still think we're much more likely to hear about these seizures than not.

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10-31-2009 , 09:49 AM

#103

VictoryisUrs

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Originally Posted by Craggoo

I can see you read the whole thread

ya, a lot of people are saying he shouldn't use a Fake ID. I think he should, so stfu and get a life insulting me, when I actually did read the whole thread. GTFO

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10-31-2009 , 10:23 AM

#104

Rek

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Originally Posted by VictoryisUrs

ya, a lot of people are saying he shouldn't use a Fake ID. I think he should, so stfu and get a life insulting me, when I actually did read the whole thread. GTFO

In that case you are just not very bright.

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10-31-2009 , 03:39 PM

#105

_Towelie_

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Everyone advocating "nothing will go wrong, just initiate a withdrawal as per usual" are either wealthy to the point that $90k isn't that big of a deal to them or aren't seriously putting themselves in OP's shoes.

I'm not positive the fake documentation route is the best way but at least I'm willing to admit my lack of surety on the issue.

Edit: Regardless I sincerely hope OP updates this thread as more info comes in.

Last edited by _Towelie_; 10-31-2009 at 03:47 PM.

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10-31-2009 , 07:39 PM

#106

GrannyMae

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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev

C'mon really? It's difficult for someone under 18 to deposit onto a poker site. Maybe not hard to get someone to transfer them money but depositing if they don't have a credit card takes a little effort, they'd really have to be serious about playing poker.

And after the kid gets his $100 or $200 on the site, one of two things will happen:

1. He'll donk off the money (most likely will happen) and doesn't redeposit or get another transfer for awhile because it's a pain in the ass.
2. He'll grind up a bankroll and keep building. (unlikely)

As long as he doesn't wanna withdraw while still under age, I don't see a problem with it. Kids are going to break rules and sh*t, it isn't that bad to play poker when you're under 18. Once he turns 18 he should be allowed to take his money wherever he wants.

trev,

i had home games when i was 12.

i don't have a moral issue here. i have an issue with the fact that underage gambling is a big piece of the objections of those that wish to ban online poker.

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11-01-2009 , 02:28 AM

#107

Rek

HUZA 2008

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Originally Posted by _Towelie_

The point is though that there are only 2 options available to him:

Attempt withdrawal legally and provide correct ID if asked.
Attempt withdrawal by providing fraudulent documents or dumping funds to others.

Option 1 > Option 2. There have been countless cases of funds seized by attempting option 2 and countless cases where previously underage players have been allowed to continue once they reach 18.

You may be a bit worried but there is only one correct (and best) course of action.

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Edit: Regardless I sincerely hope OP updates this thread as more info comes in.

Don't hold your breath that rarely happens.

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11-01-2009 , 02:40 AM

#108

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev

As long as he doesn't wanna withdraw while still under age, I don't see a problem with it. Kids are going to break rules and sh*t, it isn't that bad to play poker when you're under 18. Once he turns 18 he should be allowed to take his money wherever he wants.

The sites have to be serious about it because it just takes one dumb**** 16 year old to degen it up and lose a couple thousand and get busted by mommy and daddy, who he then tells how easy it was to get money online and play, to cause a big online poker backlash.

That said, I still think he has a better chance to be upfront about what's been done (if the site even questions him) than to pull some fake ID crap.

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11-01-2009 , 03:09 AM

#109

Onetwobit

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either do some thing stupid

or compose a well written email asking for help, telling most the truth, but leave out a few unimportant details

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11-01-2009 , 03:47 AM

#110

LetMeLive

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wow no one thought of making a pokerstars acct and finding a bunch of trades or something?

fwiw, i didn't have a bank acct either, well until i needed one for poker

Last edited by LetMeLive; 11-01-2009 at 03:48 AM. Reason: 90k > pokerstars > bankwire> atm > titties

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11-01-2009 , 10:42 PM

#111

GrannyMae

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Originally Posted by Rek

Don't hold your breath that rarely happens.

if he stops posting it will mean he got his dough.

EDIT:

or that he had already dumped the chips.

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11-01-2009 , 10:45 PM

#112

GrannyMae

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Originally Posted by LetMeLive

wow no one thought of making a pokerstars acct and finding a bunch of trades or something?

fwiw, i didn't have a bank acct either, well until i needed one for poker

trades require transfers. the dilemma is the likelihood that the transfers may cause a security check and then he is at their mercy.

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11-01-2009 , 11:16 PM

#113

il_martilo

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Will keep this upated as the situation progresses but whatever line he takes it will be very slow.

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11-01-2009 , 11:30 PM

#114

GrannyMae

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Originally Posted by il_martilo

Will keep this upated as the situation progresses but whatever line he takes it will be very slow.

well, i guess this means increments. this makes me think it is already decided how to do it.

good luck, i guess.

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11-01-2009 , 11:46 PM

#115

il_martilo

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Originally Posted by GrannyMae

well, i guess this means increments. this makes me think it is already decided how to do it.

good luck, i guess.

He's narrowed it to two options but to help protect identity a little I won't list them.

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11-01-2009 , 11:48 PM

#116

GrannyMae

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Originally Posted by il_martilo

He's narrowed it to two options but to help protect identity a little I won't list them.

so he's done nothing yet?

keep us posted.

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11-02-2009 , 12:05 AM

#117

il_martilo

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Not yet no.

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11-02-2009 , 12:39 AM

#118

r1tony

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Originally Posted by Rek

Time to man up and face the music. He is 21 now and needs to grow some.

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11-02-2009 , 02:41 AM

#119

Rek

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Originally Posted by il_martilo

He's narrowed it to two options but to help protect identity a little I won't list them.

I look forward to your next thread then - "FTP stole my friend's money". At which point I would have to say "good, he deserves it".

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11-02-2009 , 03:40 AM

#120

il_martilo

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^^^ No that thread title would be "friend broke ToS 4 years ago and got caught"

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11-02-2009 , 04:39 AM

#121

JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fat

Perfect on both counts.

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