It seems quite a few of the regs who benefit the most from bop want to keep it, i are shocked.

I don't benefit from BOP at this moment, and even I can see that the proposed promotions are in no way a decent replacement for BOP.

Many of reasons have been given already itt, it's definitely a good development for stars (at least short time), it 'll cost them less than bop in it's current state, chances are they might even profit from it.

Just promote BOP more, maybe tweak it a little bit but their should at least be some kind of leaderboard per BI level (per game?) where players can win some money. And also do something for HU/5050/45+ sngs.
That way the regs are happy, just like they were with BOP, which in fact was the whole idea of it if I understand correctly.

The other promo's could still be run to attract recs, and like I already said stars would pbb benifit from these promos either way.

I feel like this thread is a way for stars to announce bad changes and try to make them look as good as possible. Can't to see if this thread is opened to really listen to the community.

Perhaps you missed the part about Stars trying to include *all* sng players not just those who have chosen to grind the games that currently qualify for BOP prizes.

I think the promo's schould be for more money. Now, everything they put into the promo's goes to regs and gets cashed out. If they do a reload with tickets, everything stays at pokerstars. Though i like the promo's, they should be for like 2x the money bop is.

keep the BOP for high stakes players, obv should have a leaderboard for hight stake husng players as well
cut the freeroll shootout and run those promotions for micro-mid stakes sng should be a nice way to go.

And please be more generous in refunding those tickets!!!

Promotion two seems very poorly thought out. Isn't it bad for the poker ecosystem to have top sng players at micro and low stakes?

Perhaps you forgot how to read entire posts

Perhaps you missed this part of OP. I'll refresh you.

Do you know what "all" means or do I need to define it for you?

I like 1 and 4 (happy hours might increase the late night traffic when it gets awful quite)

maybe have top 9 in each bop play a sng with a pro at end of month

Dom that's all well and good saying that but what would you do regarding the triple shootout?are you suggesting removing that completely (because obviously a vast proportion of that field is from the low stakes players) or would you rather it be a 6 max triple shootout kinda thing which would only require 216 players?

+1

I currently have 21 BOP TSO tickets. I would be interested to know what the $value of all tickets in the player pool currently is, and what $value of tickets is estimated to be written off as a result of the $0 value for tickets of players holding >5 tickets. How would this alter the relative value offered by the planned promotions vis-à-vis Battle of the Planets minus TSO ticket write offs.

From a personal standpoint, I will lose a lot of money from this. The balancing of bonuses can be debated for and against from varying perspectives, but short-changing those who succeeded the most on the active promotion seems unfair from any perspective. Why not just calculate the average value of a BOP TSO ticket and credit that amount for each ticket that was not used, or charge a more modest vig for the non-use of a ticket. I'm sure the effective vig for myself and others is absurd, in the region of 90%+. Even 20-33% would represent a vast $ difference ($1000-1500).

removing bop is a big mistake. Stars should feel bad doing this.

Hello, I have to agree with everyone saying removing BOP is a big mistake (huge). Even with all those promotions it's never worth.

One more thing, HU hypers players already have the most traffic on sngs and I don't see any logic reason for them to be complaining. They pay the lower rake among all the sng players too. I lolz at them .

Last point: BOP is a great promotion because it rewards both fish and regs, due to the high variance of 20 games blocks and 100 games. Maybe promoting it would be much better, cause since I play on Stars I never see BOP being promoted anywhere. Fish need to be rewarded because without them regs can't survive. And regs need to be rewarded because without them Pokerstars can't survive. ***Most truly sentence ever resuming the all time poker system economy***

I'd hate to see BOP go. I remember when I first started playing, I accidentaly found out about BOP (because of poor advertisement) and it motivated me to play more and try to get in the top 10. It was so important at the beginning, and I'm sure it still is for some players who are just starting. It's also important for regs of course and it makes us play many more tables per week.

BOP leaderboard is a weekly promotion and you guys are suggesting replacing a weekly promotion (52 weeks) with six or seven promotions for the entire year? I don't see the logic there. Some of them sound good at first, specially number three and four, but to play in a golden sng one would have to be so lucky and then you'd have to cash in it, so the percentages are not good at all. Having a happy hour sounds good as well but from the experience that some people had at FTP, it will just be a massive regfest.

In my opinion, keep BOP but give more and better advertisement for it. Also include some of the other promotions but definately don't eliminate the weekly leaderboard and the prizes. With the fortune that Pokerstars is making nowadays this seems like a punishment for the regs.

Guys I am happy that we are all united in saving BOP, but the argument that any extra tickets are worth anything is just straight up wrong. (I discussed why a while back.) Once you realize that, you'll be grateful for any payout for them.

I would hate to see BOP go too. I would not mind it if the shootout no longer existed, but taking away a leaderbord is a no-go imo.

The rake in hyper is lower just bc the edge is so small. And HU hypers contribute a ton of rakes for PS but lack any promotions so far.

Nobody can be this dumb can they?

just get out

I will be very sad to see BOP go.

Great post. What you going to do next... tell me to go get a life?

Happy Hour - is cool, but it is something unique to Full Tilt, I'm not sure it is a good idea to replicate this promo on Stars exactly.

Happy hours sound good.
Have you guys ever thought of expanding the registration lobbies to
have multiple regging like FTP?