hit "check bonus" and you will get 4/10 parts of your bonus ($56)

the bonus is $140, which would release in $14 increments every 700 pts

lol, I probably would've unlocked the entire thing without knowing I had to hit that to actually release it. Thanks.

How many hands did it take you to get there?

Not exactly sure lol.

how much do players really get hit on the foreign exchange when using a bank wire? Also, do banks really just reject that or that is just ING being nitting it up? I just emailed another bank of mine to see what they say.

don't think ING takes international wires no matter if they're in USD or Euro

RE ING: (We only accept transfers from banks within the U.S.) that's from ING website.

Each bank is different for their fees and some charge for currency conversion and some don't. Some charge wire fees, some don't. It's too hard to give an exact answer to what they get charged but it can be steep in some cases.

Best Regards,

TJ

So here I am remaking my bankroll in Everleaf and I see this terrible news about Doyle and so on.

I can guess from what I've read that I should cash out from Everleaf as soon as possible, right?

I'm not American, but sadly studying here...

is this a serious question?


of COURSE ur money is safe!

Your bankroll is as safe as it was on PS/FTP/AP/UB pre black friday. The Yahatay network sites the DOJ took action against are going to continue offering poker to US customers. Although many on this forum are up in arms over the seizures, the sites involved clearly don't view it as something to make them close their doors to us. The likelihood that the DOJ is going to continue looking for ways to disrupt the US Poker market is high, but we should've all known that after Black Friday happened and what happened yesterday didn't really change anything. We should know this will continue to happen, and you should feel safe keeping your money on sites that you trust.

EDIT:

I personally play on an Everleaf skin as well, and I won't be withdrawing my roll. I will continue to cash out weekly or bi-weekly once I cross a certain threshold to hedge against the risk of continue to play and keep money online. Right now, I would feel most safe right now with money on Merge or Everleaf. Merge seems to change it's policy on servicing players based on US Law, as seen by their choice to stop allowing new signups from New York in order to shield itself from prosecution. Everleaf's behavior seems to signal to me that much like Bodog, they're basically giving the middle finger to the DOJ, except they aren't as high profile as Bodog, nor do any kind of commercial advertising like Bodog. Also, the indivual attention they give to me, and seemingly every player on the site makes me feel very comfortable with them.

Lol, honestly, you're message is so well written that I have no clue if you're making this up, being sarcastic or saying the truth...

lol, thanks... I think? Unless we're engaging in some kind of leveling war that I haven't yet picked up on yet and hadn't intended to begin. I'm just saying what I believe and there was no sarcasm

If you want to play on any site you should just keep the minimum you need to play at the stakes you are playing. And cash out (if you can) after a nice win.

Yeah you should be worried...this a level? wp

Wow, is that really you Micon? Congrats on having the ban lifted, if so.

Go check this guys last... 10 posts or so. I know I've seen a few tonight of his already that were your typical "ZOMG the sky is falling", chicken little routine posts. To quote Flavor Flav... "Don't believe the hype"

Hahaha, ok, it's a relief. I'll be watching to what happens to Merge though. Because you say it is a similar case, if there was a problem with their money then EVL could have the same problem.

Regarding the leveling war. There's such an overpopulation of teenages in 2+2 that sometimes it's hard to not think someone is making fun or trying to ousmart you with a comment. There should be a parallel forum where they asked for a document proving a minimum age.

You mean like AP and UB did the 2 days following their indictments?

You mean like AP and UB didn't the 2 days following their indictments?

Like B Micon said, just keep the money you have online to what you need to play your stakes, maybe even consider playing slightly short rolled for those stakes. Keep your risk to a minimum, cashout "x" when you reach amount "y", and if you are a winning player, the rewards will far outweigh the risk.

Players who played on UB/AP to begin with after the super user scandal should've expected what happened and thus not given them any business to begin with. Like this entire community has been yelling at the top of it's lungs for the past few years. Who knew so many zealots could be right?

The OPs question was should he be worried? They just indicted the lol Yatahay network, so yeah I would be worried. That doesnt mean I am not gonna play at all, just giving a logical answer to the question.

Of course he should be worried, but he should have been equally as worried on Sunday, a week before that, a month before that and so on...

I don't even even argue that the likelihood of something worthy of our worry will occur. I believe it probably will at some point in the future. I was just doing some risk assessment and I don't believe what happened yesterday was a game change, either. But that's just like... my opinion, man.

TJ, I'm not sure if there software changes, but had a very difficult time playing last night and this morning. I typically 4-table in acascade set-up. When I start playing, all works fine - the table reuiring action pops to the front, I act, and thenext table requiring action pops to the front.

But if I either disconnect momentarily or manually click on a table before it pops to the front, the tables stop popping to the front autolmatically. Once this happens, there seems to be no way to undo it short of leaving my tables, logging off the client and logging back in. And when i log back in, of course there are no seats at any tables. If I close the client w/out leaving my tables, when I log back in I get re-seated at my tables, but need to manually click the "I'm back" buttoin. the manual clicking of the "I'm Baclk" button re-creates the problem of tables not popping to the front when needing action. It is impossible to play more than 2 tables this way, because I have to constantly click on every table to see if I have action.

Another problem occurs w/ any disconnect, where once I re-connect, my auto top-off tries to top me off after every hand, even when I am above my buy-in. So on every table, every hand, I have to click the boxes to acknowledge that (i) top-off will occuir after the hand and (ii) I have too much money on the table to top off.

Do you have any ideas how to solve these issues? Unlike some of my earlier "wishlist" software improvements, I really can't play when the software does these things.

I should add that I have HEM running the entire time.

Thanks for any help.

5204Salty,

Those are some rather odd problems to encounter. I don't have an answer on any of it and won't fathom a guess because I don't know. Does this happen without HEM running or are you always running HEM?

I would like to do some process of elimination if at all possible. Also are you running a mod? I don't think you are since I think you would have mentioned it.

Try it without HEM and see if the same scenario happens, at least if it does, which I hope it doesn't but if so, we can rule out HEM.

I know if I send it in as is, there will be more questions than answers.

Let me know.

TJ

Uh, players should have expected a DOJ indictment because of a superuser scandal? Nah, doesn't work like that. What you are doing is minimizing the outcome by invoking previous unrelated events. If 4 banks get charged with fraud and shut down, 3 of which have clean records and 1 of which was proven to be involved in fraud, the outcome is the same for all customers of all banks. Whether or not the customers of Fraud Bank are dumb/suckers/whatever is irrelevant when looking at the banking landscape and likelihood of future shutdowns.

What you are saying is that for every online poker site there is a probability of shutdown for that site that is independent of all other events. This is a wildly unrealistic model for risk assessment and I reject your conclusion.

The correct answer is that more indictments increase the likelihood that the DOJ is looking to shut everything down, and decrease the likelihood that this is simply a scare campaign. It is clear that the US wants the online poker market razed for whatever reason. Everleaf is thus more likely to be a DOJ target and your money on Everleaf is necessarily less safe than it was a few days ago. So it is indeed a 'game changer'. The only question is to what degree has the game changed.