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Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract? Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract?

03-20-2016 , 07:37 AM
Yo, Skrill nut. You ever going to prove that you actually accomplished anything with your case (that you refuse to provide proper information about).

If all you are doing is obsessively raging, with zero results, then fine - I guess start various blogs and websites for that cause. Might help if you found even a single other person who thinks you have anything useful to say (though I doubt that matters to you much).

All the best.
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03-20-2016 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Yo, Skrill nut. You ever going to prove that you actually accomplished anything with your case...
Cases are still in process and take months, especially as Skrill ignore complaints sent to their Legal Department,

which is a breach of its own ToS and also a breach of the prescribed rules by their regulator FCA.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
...(that you refuse to provide proper information about).
Which information are you missing?

Except as otherwise required by each deposit method or security team, gambling companies have to give you any or all of your account balance at any time.

Is it too difficult to look at the name of the gambling company which unjustifiably withholds your account balance and put it into the registered letter to Skrill's Legal Department in London?

Slow paying is proof of embezzlement as they have to give you any or all of your account balance at any time.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
If all you are doing is obsessively raging, with zero results, then fine...
I have never raged and inform Skrill victims objectively about their rights(with source) and how they can proceed, opposed to your meaningless statements.

Things are in process and we will see the results in the foreseen future. At least 5 people would need to send complaints to Skrill and the Financial Ombudsman with proof that Skrill breach its own ToS and do not fulfil their obligations in regards to UK law(i.e. AML laws, report suspicious transactions to the FCA, etc.). The more victims send complaints to Skrill and to the Financial Ombudsman, the higher is the chance that this will lead to something.
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03-20-2016 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Player Protection
Cases are still in process and take months, especially as Skrill ignore complaints sent to their Legal Department,

which is a breach of its own ToS and also a breach of the prescribed rules by their regulator FCA..
What will that mean when there is no update on your cloudy situation by next year? Why should anyone else waste so much time of their lives when you are not accomplishing anything with your waste?


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Originally Posted by Player Protection
Which information are you missing?
Small stuff like what room you (oops, I mean your "client") did a deposit with, and the amount you (oops, I mean "your client") lost in the casino.

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Originally Posted by Player Protection
Except as otherwise required by each deposit method or security team, gambling companies have to give you any or all of your account balance at any time.
Not if you lost it fairly, which is what you did. You always avoid those details when asked of course.

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Originally Posted by Player Protection
Is it too difficult to look at the name of the gambling company which unjustifiably withholds your account balance and put it into the registered letter to Skrill's Legal Department in London?
Well, since you want to be a beacon of hope or something for everyone (despite nobody else caring), it does seem odd that you will not give even the basic information of your personal case that is going nowhere. Sure, you can find and bump all sorts of threads from the grave with your Skrill crazy (like you did with that Lock thread), but that does not change anything.


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Originally Posted by Player Protection
I have never raged and inform Skrill victims objectively about their rights(with source) and how they can proceed, opposed to your meaningless statements.
Dude, every one of your posts is a rage based post, even if you have managed to fool yourself otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Player Protection
Things are in process and we will see the results in the foreseen future.
There is nothing ion progress. The "results" are simple. You will not win anything, and you will simply be wasting more of your valueless time with your obsession.

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Originally Posted by Player Protection
At least 5 people would need to send complaints to Skrill and the Financial Ombudsman with proof that Skrill breach its own ToS and do not fulfil their obligations in regards to UK law(i.e. AML laws, report suspicious transactions to the FCA, etc.). The more victims send complaints to Skrill and to the Financial Ombudsman, the higher is the chance that this will lead to something.
To date not a single person has offered genuine support for your crazy cause. Also, you owe that other person money for that prop bet you lost, so do the right thing and pay up.

All the best.
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03-20-2016 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
What will that mean when there is no update on your cloudy situation by next year?
There will be updates this year.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Why should anyone else waste so much time of their lives when you are not accomplishing anything with your waste?
Said the one who waste his time with meaningless statements.

You do not know and you can not know what I have already accomplished and what we will accomplish in the foreseen future.

Because it has a good investment/return ratio to spend some further hours to claim his rights, if someone wasted some 10s or 100s hours of his time and spend some $100s or $1000s of his money.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Small stuff like what room you (oops, I mean your "client") did a deposit with, and the amount you (oops, I mean "your client") lost in the casino.
The amount a single victim lost and the time he wasted with playing on a site that embezzled deposits, is irrelevant for the hole picture. It is only relevant that there should be at least 5 victims claiming their rights.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Not if you lost it fairly, which is what you did. You always avoid those details when asked of course.
Your post makes no sense: If someone lost it fairly, then it is not embezzled and then there is no claim.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Well, since you want to be a beacon of hope or something for everyone (despite nobody else caring), it does seem odd that you will not give even the basic information of your personal case that is going nowhere. Sure, you can find and bump all sorts of threads from the grave with your Skrill crazy (like you did with that Lock thread), but that does not change anything.
To change something requires that the victims claim their rights, to claim their rights requires that they know about their rights.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
There is nothing ion progress. The "results" are simple. You will not win anything, and you will simply be wasting more of your valueless time with your obsession.
You do not know and you can not know if we will win anything or not.

It is indeed complicated, but the more victims join, the higher will be the chance to succeed.

Based on your meaningless statements so far, no idea why you would be concerned about I wasting my valueless time?
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03-20-2016 , 01:17 PM
You are not a victim. You have no claim. You (as as expected) offered no more details about your "client." Nobody is joining you. People like you make a mockery of real issues. You will have no verifiable updates, though maybe you will make something up in the future.

Anyway, try to avoid off-topic bumping old threads that have nothing to do with your crazy in future.

All the best.
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03-20-2016 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Anyway, try to avoid off-topic bumping old threads that have nothing to do with your crazy in future.
Skrill habitually breach the legally binding agreement, do not comply with the Financial Conduct Authority regulations,
do not comply with the Consumer Rights Act 2015, do not report suspicious transactions to the National Crime Agency (NCA), make willful deceptions in the legally binding agreement and continue to process deposits to gambling companies which have embezzled player deposits and or breached Skrill's ToS is topic for the threads

Lock Poker

WinCake

Full Flush / Equity Poker Network

Carbon / Sportsbook / PlayersOnly / Merge Gaming Network

Pure Poker

Muchos Poker

...and any other thread where a gambling company embezzled player deposits, until at least end of 2018.
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03-20-2016 , 04:52 PM
Well, you can potentially look forward to a life in 2019+ after you get nowhere with your SKrill obsession, with no people joining you along the way. Until then - I guess enjoy your little journey, and perhaps in 2019 you will find something else to be angry about on behalf of "clients."

All the best.
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03-22-2016 , 04:21 PM
If Skrill would fulfil its obligation to report merchant account holder(s), which have embezzled player deposits, to the relevant law enforcement agencies, then everyone(Not only those who used Skrill) could have the chance to demand what is owed directly from the responsible people.

Here is the info about the merchant account holders Skrill has on file:

EXCERPT

3. Business Information

All fields are mandatory

- Registered Business Name, Registration Number, Date of Registration

- Registered Business Address, Town/City, Postal/Zip Code, Country

- Principal Operating Address(Location of management-operations)

Town/City, Postal/Zip, Code Country

- Director Name, Address

- Name of Primary Bank, Bank Address

Town/City, Postal/Zip Code, Country


4. Merchant Account Information

- Name of Principal Contact, Direct Phone Number, Email Address

- Name of Secondary Contact Direct Phone Number Email Address


5. Account Signatories

Please provide the names, signature specimens and other requested information on all individuals who are authorized to sign off on administrative changes to the merchant account and bank wire settlement instructions associated with it.

Name, ...signature...

DOB, Role/Title, Direct Phone Number, Email Address


6. Declaration

By signing and submitting this application, you consent to and authorise Neteller Operations Limited to perform necessary identity verification and credit checks which may include the use of a third-party business reporting agency. New merchant accounts are subject to a 30 day probationary period, during which time we may suspend or close your account without notice.

You hereby represent that the foregoing information provided during the application process is true and correct and agree to notify us promptly by email of any changes. Furthermore, the applicant acknowledges that any and all documents and information submitted with the merchant application may be stored securely on a permanent basis by Neteller Operations Limited regardless of whether or not the merchant application is approved

- Name of Corporation, Print Name, Title, Authorised Signatory, Date
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03-23-2016 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
That keeps timing out for me. Link?
It is reachable again.

http://www.curacao-chamber.cw/servic...search-company

put Stacktrace N.V. in, then click on the link Stacktrace N.V.
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04-11-2016 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Well, you can potentially look forward to a life in 2019+ after you get nowhere with your Skrill obsession, with no people joining you along the way. Until then - I guess enjoy your little journey, and perhaps in 2019 you will find something else to be angry about on behalf of "clients."

All the best.
Your prediction was wrong! I suggest to buy new dices and roll them again, maybe this time you will have more luck with your prediction. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by TheFlipper
This is just like gambling, you can't predict when you gonna get it (IF you gonna get it), the timespan between cashouts doesn't matter.
I'm waiting for several Neteller payments, first requested in July, none arrived. Some people requested it later and got it.

Player Protection, thanks for the idea of contacting payment processor, I'm gonna do it. Maybe it will do some impact in protecting unaware people
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04-11-2016 , 12:55 AM
Player Protection:

To show there was embezzlement you need to show intent. There is no way that you can prove a site's intent just on the basis of late payments. Unless you have been tapping phones, you are wasting yours and everyone else's time with this obsession you have.
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04-11-2016 , 06:51 AM
He may very well be correct in suggesting I am wrong predicting he may have some sort of life after 2019. He probably will be doing what he is doing now, so I officially revise that prediction.
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04-11-2016 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
Player Protection:

To show there was embezzlement you need to show intent. There is no way that you can prove a site's intent just on the basis of late payments. Unless you have been tapping phones, you are wasting yours and everyone else's time with this obsession you have.
Based on which law and paragraph do you have to show intent in relation to embezzlement? Embezzlement is the unlawful appropriation of entrusted matters and this is always intentional. Late or non payments, while you are obliged to pay instantly the hole balance, is proof of embezzlement and embezzlement is proof of intent, as it is not possible to unlawful appropriate entrusted matters unintentionally.

But let us assume the gambling operator did not unlawful appropriate the deposits, but can not process the pending withdrawal requests in a timely manner because he simply has not the money.

In this case someone must have stolen the player deposits(I can exclude general payment processors issues over months) and this would mean that the gambling operator commit the criminal offense of fraud, because he would have to inform the creditors that the player deposits are stolen and that he is not able to process withdrawal requests in a timely manner. He would be also obliged to report the theft to the police.

In relation to report criminal gambling operators to the payment service providers like Skrill, Neteller, etc., it does not play any role whether the merchant account holder breached the ToS of the payment processor because he embezzled the deposits or because he committed fraud as he did not inform the creditors that the deposits were stolen and did not report the theft to the police.

Whether the gambling operator committed embezzlement or fraud, in each case Shrill or Neteller or any other payment processor has to stop deposits to the merchant account and report the account holder(s) to the relevant law enforcement agency.

If victims informed the payment processor(with proof) that they did not receive their account balance within a timely manner = embezzlement(or fraud) and Skrill, Neteller, etc. continue to process deposits and do not report them to the relevant law enforcement agency, then they are liable for the damage customers have suffered, as they intentionally did not fulfil their obligations by their regulator FCA, AML, criminal and civil laws.
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04-11-2016 , 04:10 PM
Regardless of how forcefully you state your black and white misinterpretation of what embezzlement is, in the real world your understanding of it isn't going to get you very far.
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04-11-2016 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
Regardless of how forcefully you state your black and white misinterpretation of what embezzlement is, in the real world your understanding of it isn't going to get you very far.
It is clearly stated in the criminal laws what embezzlement is and do not require a personal interpretation.

Unjustifiably withhold account balances = embezzlement.

You are the one who is not able to quote the real world law and paragraph, which demand to prove the intent of an embezzlement.

Here is the explanation of embezzlement, feel free to quote the passage where the creditor has to prove the intent of the embezzlement.
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04-11-2016 , 05:00 PM
Then you shouldn't have any problem at all showing an example where someone went to prison for embezzlement which was based solely on late payments.

I think that we've all seen amateur google lawyers do what you are doing many time before. Arguing law with someone who only knows his own subjective interpretations would be an enormous waste of my time.
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04-11-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
I think that we've all seen amateur google lawyers do what you are doing many time before. Arguing law with someone who only knows his own subjective interpretations would be an enormous waste of my time.
Can you post your biography somewhere else? This is not a biography thread...

Despite of this, victims inform the payment processor that merchant account holder xyz embezzled their account balance and make misleading and false statements about withdrawal time frames = fraud is never a waste of time, as the payment processor is obliged to act by law and ToS.

So victims have lost $1000s(how many hours work is this? 100s hours of work?) and have lost uncountable hours of time playing, but when they spend a few hours to report the embezzlement and fraud, then according to legal expert Santa Cruz, this of course is a waste of time!

-> yeah, your logic makes absolute sense
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04-11-2016 , 06:44 PM
Nothing that you just wrote has anything to do with what I posted. And good luck trying to get anyone to reimburse you for the time you spent gambling.
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04-11-2016 , 08:28 PM
You have misleading and false stated that creditors must prove the intent of the embezzlement, what they can not on the basis of late payments. You did not use the words "waste your time" explicitly, but your misleading statement strongly indicated it.

When you have a working contract stating that your work starts Mo-Fr at 8.00 am and you come every day at 10.00 am instead, then you breach the contract. It is not legally valid to say "yes, I come later every day, but I have the intent to come and because I have the intent to come(does not matter when I come), I do not breach our agreement.

As soon as you are able to understand what this means, you will be able to understand what late payments mean, while a gambling operator is obliged to pay instantly.
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04-11-2016 , 08:59 PM
What you've been writing is just a lot of muddled thinking. I'm sure that you can better spend your time on more productive endeavors.
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04-11-2016 , 11:13 PM
You are not able to deliver proof of your false and misleading statements and accusations, speaks for you.
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04-11-2016 , 11:45 PM
You're the one making the accusations. You're the one who has to provide the proof. Your superficial and amateur readings of the law prove absolutely nothing. You haven't even attempted to show how your interpretations hold up in actual practice. I've seen plenty of amateurs see what they want to see when it comes to the law.
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04-12-2016 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
You're the one making the accusations.
What accusations?

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You're the one who has to provide the proof.
About what?

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Your superficial and amateur readings of the law prove absolutely nothing.
Which law prove absolutely nothing?

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You haven't even attempted to show how your interpretations hold up in actual practice..
Which interpretations about what?
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04-12-2016 , 12:48 AM
If you can't even understand what I just posted, you certainly can't interpret the law.
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