I emailed tilt about what promo do they offer to combat sne

they got back to me about a wsop promo they have.. And that was it.

i understand they have rakeback, so altogether i guess u would be getting about 4 k in rakeback a month or somewhere there, depending on how high u play and number of tables u play. So that is a guess.

say u get 3k a month, plus a wsop promo. your looking at 36k in cash, and the previous mentioned....

It doesnt really compare at all.... Just i guess sne is back loaded on the milestones... u have to be at 1mil before u start collecting.

Now if u compare it to cereus. U become a icon status on ub, u can cash out points for the month up to $1000, plus your rakeback.. so u have the potential to ahve much more then 30-36k in cash. And the bonus is upfront.

they do not offer the live tourny options... it is kinda a tough call. esp if u dont get there with sne.

but tilt is really doing nothing here....

They're supposed to be coming out with a new rewards program sometime soon. Possibly as soon as April. Nobody knows what the details will be yet, though.

Has been said many times, but it's worth repeating. FTP needs to do more to reward its high volume players

they do have rush poker now which allows me to make 200 dollars a week rakeback for an hour a day of play. plus easy ironman achievement

rush poker is not a bonus program...

full tit imo

Seriously, SNE on stars is something like about 200 people out of millions of players. Would probably be similar numbers on Full Tilt.

Sure the SNEs rake $200k/year at the tables, but also they get a huge chunk of that back through the rewards program, much more than half of it. SNEs probably only amounts to a total net revenue of a few million dollars for Stars, maybe 10 million max?. Upping the promos they offer to them would reduce that even more.

I'm happier they keep the promos going which ensure a steady stream of recreational players coming in at low levels to keep money flowing into the economy.

they make a pretty penny from people who try and give up with 150k rake behind them

also 100k>nothing

...but not too much.

And I actually mean this. The worst thing that happened to game quality at Stars was SNE.

Kind of interesting would be something like monthly point milestones that gave reasonable but still modest rewards in unique ways. Imagine if you get 10,000 points for a month you get a 'cracked AA token' where the next time you get your AA all in preflop and lose, you get a $200 bonus that must be cleared. With similar little rewards for various point levels. It costs FTP almost nothing, isn't anything that people are going to bend over backwards and start super nitting 16 tables to get, but it's still at least a modest reward for higher volume players.

just 18 table 200nl at tilt and your rakeback will make you very happy

Max tables is 16. And you're missing the point.

Just make the ironman bonus good. As it is it's bascially crap and meaningless. I'm all for smaller bonsus that will get the casual recreational players playing more than bigger bonuses for hardcore grinders.

they offer rakeback to some.

Lowest RB ive ever seen.

with ironman, it adds up

lol with ironman it adds up.... I hope thats a jopke

FTP and Stars have 2 different business models and the way they reward players is different as we all know. I like it that way because it gives players choice.

If sne rewards are your aim then Stars is the way to go. Why should any other site have to follow?

We wait to see an iron man with value.

+1

Not saying FTP should have a program that is exactly like SNE - just think they should do more to reward high volume players. I am in my 24th month of iron man and 16 table 200NL regularly. This gets me around 1000 medals per month, which if spent wisely equals out to about $200 in value. I make more than $200 on most days in rakeback alone. So yea, any extra money is nice but comparing iron man to SNE is laughable. I think they should add more levels to Ironman where if you get 5000 or 10,000 points in a day it is actually worth it. As it is now, the difference between 2000 points and 10,000 points in a day is a whopping $16.

This is why all the big grinders play on stars imo

I think they are just set up to service a different player. If you are a mega high type grinder then PS & SNE is better for you. If you are not, then FT would be better as the Bronze, SIlver etc can't really compete with FT & the Iron Man deals.

+ 1

Iron man should be worth much more

sne players should not be encouraged, that extra 20% rakeback they get should be bonuses given to donks

you think that games are better on ftp? Serious question, I dont play on stars