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06-22-2016 , 09:26 AM
So what prompts me to make this post is that I can't be the only one on earth (or at least the UK) to have constant, unresolved, ISP keep jabbering there's no problems their end, connection issues ongoing for years and years, at different addresses, with different ISP's, the works!

Determined to find the problem once and for all I messaged Stars, they did their network report thingy and said the usual...:

"The Network Status Report (NSR) you provided shows data packets lost at different hops for all the traced sites.

The issue for you is not your connection to your ISP as this is perfectly stable. This is shown in the first few hops having a quality of 100. The issue lies in between your ISP and our server, unfortunately, this is something that neither you or us can be responsible for.

You will need to contact your ISP and ask them to check if they are losing packets when they try to ping our server. You must tell them that your connection to their server is fine it is after the packet leaves their server that you experience issues. If possible ask if they can route your traffic to our servers through a different path."

So how many of you have had this problem and have you actually managed to resolve it with your ISP companies EVER EVER EVER?? Thanks
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06-22-2016 , 10:25 AM
Perhaps posters should make it clear what country & what ISP or this will be a useless thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Pig
..."The Network Status Report (NSR) you provided shows data packets lost at different hops for all the traced sites [...] You will need to contact your ISP and ask them to check if they are losing packets when they try to ping our server. [...] So how many of you have had this problem and have you actually managed to resolve it with your ISP companies EVER EVER EVER?? Thanks
The short answer is Yes, but not through normal ISP channels which are useless everywhere including no doubt in other galaxies too.

The fault lay with my ISP & their hardware & not with PokerStars. But my ISP [BT who don't give a fig] was useless whereas PokerStars support did all the heavy lifting to get me started on a fix for my problem

I'm UK. I've always used BT Broadband
PC connected to "BT Home Hub 3.0 model A" manufactured by Gigasetrouter via Ethernet cable

I did everything in the instructions provided by PokerStars Henry below except the bolded parts. I couldn't do those because on my particular router I couldn't change MTU & the firmware on it was way out of date. BT basically shrugged their shoulders & sent me repeated useless potted replies. I found a BT engineer through a friend-of-a-friend who called around on his time for free beers & a tinker. He did some magic & upgraded the firmware to a more recent version than BT provides. Bingo - problem solved.

From October 2015:
Quote:
Hello xxxx,

Thank you for your email.

The Network Status Report (NSR) you provided shows data packets are being lost at the first hop for all traced sites.

Hop #1 belongs to your router, which means that it may be blocking our software from connecting properly, as sometimes the default firewall that routers have can interfere with our client’s connection. Most routers are fine pieces of equipment, but sometimes they need to be updated and configured for online gaming software.

Please set the trigger (automatic port forwarding) for the following ports: 26002, 443 and 22.

Using a Web browser, bring up your router's configuration page. By default, the URL is 192.168.0.1 (or similar), the user name is "admin", and the password is blank. Once you have accessed the router configuration page follow these instructions as a guideline (exact instructions may vary depending on router model).

1. Click the Advanced tab
2. Click the Applications button
3. Click the Enable button
4. After Name, enter "PokerStars" or anything you wish to label this setting
5. After Trigger Port, enter 26002
6. After Trigger Type, choose TCP
7. After Public Port, enter 26002
8. After Public Type, choose TCP
9. Click "Apply"
10. Repeat these instructions for ports 443 and 22

Some players have also reduced the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) setting from 1,500 to 1,200 with excellent results. We recommend you to use the value of 1,312 as theoretically speaking it will be compatible with most equipment running on 53 byte packet sizes.

Updating the firmware on the router may also stabilize the connection, but if it does not then you may need to acquire a different model or a different brand of router, or work without a router (running your cable/DSL modem directly to your computer). As a router provides some minimal natural firewall capabilities, we do recommend using a router.


To upgrade your firmware, please contact the router vendor or manufacturer.

We suggest using a wired connection from your computer to your router as wireless connections (WiFi) are generally speaking less stable. If you use a wireless connection, please check to see if your router has a Turbo or G option and turn it off. For example, in the wireless option of your router's configuration page, you may find a field with 'B/M/G Mixed' which can be changed to 'B/M Mixed'. This will disable the G option. Some "Super-G" or "Super-G Turbo" routers have a problem running in Turbo mode. Apparently they use "channel hopping" to bond multiple channels in support of this feature, but it is highly susceptible to interference from other 2.4GHz wireless networks and devices. Turning off the channel hopping feature (or the Super-G/Super-G Turbo mode) of such devices will turn them into a standard 802.11g wireless device and may make them more stable. Please contact your router vendor or router documentation for more assistance with turning off these features of your router.

If you have a separate modem and router you can bypass the router and connect your PC directly to the modem. Take into consideration also, that you or other users can affect your network as any of the users can be downloading files such as program updates or streaming video/music from the Internet and reducing the available bandwidth.

We hope to hear from your soon and if you have any questions, please let us know.

Regards,

Henry M
PokerStars Technical Specialist
NOTES

My problems only existed on some gaming/gambling sites & no other types of content [I don't do internet p0rn so can't comment], but I had parental controls disabled + my BT plan was for unlimited data use. I still have some lingering suspicion that BT was choking my comms with sites they didn't approve of, but that could be me in tinfoil hat mode.

I also had a USB stick router from Orange Mobile [£10 topup when I needed to use it] with tiny bandwidth as a backup internet for emergencies & never ever had the same problems. PokerStars very light on the internet.

The ports instructions in the Henry email were generic & it took a lot of internet research to translate it into instructions that made sense on my virtual BT router management console. But setting the correct ports did help me too.

Last edited by _Loki_; 06-22-2016 at 10:43 AM.
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06-22-2016 , 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Pig
So what prompts me to make this post is that I can't be the only one on earth (or at least the UK) to have constant, unresolved, ISP keep jabbering there's no problems their end, connection issues ongoing for years and years, at different addresses, with different ISP's, the works!

Determined to find the problem once and for all I messaged Stars, they did their network report thingy and said the usual...:

"The Network Status Report (NSR) you provided shows data packets lost at different hops for all the traced sites.

The issue for you is not your connection to your ISP as this is perfectly stable. This is shown in the first few hops having a quality of 100. The issue lies in between your ISP and our server, unfortunately, this is something that neither you or us can be responsible for.

You will need to contact your ISP and ask them to check if they are losing packets when they try to ping our server. You must tell them that your connection to their server is fine it is after the packet leaves their server that you experience issues. If possible ask if they can route your traffic to our servers through a different path."

So how many of you have had this problem and have you actually managed to resolve it with your ISP companies EVER EVER EVER?? Thanks
you say you have tried multiple isp's. but were they actually seperate? did you do any research into them. in some countries you may see multiple companys offering internet service that you can hire, but there will just be 1 main company renting out a portion of their system to the other companies, so even though you have a contract with 2 diff isp's if they are in fact on the same system you would experience the same issues.

in general no matter what country you live in you should have 2 internet lines from 2 completely different providers. for example:
-1x fiber/dsl/dialup (most telephone companies offer 1 of these 3 options)
-1x cable line.

its pretty much 99% gtd those 2 choices will not have any overlap and use different servers/hubs/routing. if you have both of the above and still experience issues you can grab a 3rd line through the cellular company.

if you still experience issues with all 3 you are SOL
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06-22-2016 , 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Loki_
Perhaps posters should make it clear what country & what ISP or this will be a useless thread: The short answer is Yes, but not through normal ISP channels which are useless everywhere including no doubt in other galaxies too.

The fault lay with my ISP & their hardware & not with PokerStars. But my ISP [BT who don't give a fig] was useless whereas PokerStars support did all the heavy lifting to get me started on a fix for my problem

I'm UK. I've always used BT Broadband
PC connected to "BT Home Hub 3.0 model A" manufactured by Gigasetrouter via Ethernet cable

I did everything in the instructions provided by PokerStars Henry below except the bolded parts. I couldn't do those because on my particular router I couldn't change MTU & the firmware on it was way out of date. BT basically shrugged their shoulders & sent me repeated useless potted replies. I found a BT engineer through a friend-of-a-friend who called around on his time for free beers & a tinker. He did some magic & upgraded the firmware to a more recent version than BT provides. Bingo - problem solved.

From October 2015:
NOTES

My problems only existed on some gaming/gambling sites & no other types of content [I don't do internet p0rn so can't comment], but I had parental controls disabled + my BT plan was for unlimited data use. I still have some lingering suspicion that BT was choking my comms with sites they didn't approve of, but that could be me in tinfoil hat mode.

I also had a USB stick router from Orange Mobile [£10 topup when I needed to use it] with tiny bandwidth as a backup internet for emergencies & never ever had the same problems. PokerStars very light on the internet.

The ports instructions in the Henry email were generic & it took a lot of internet research to translate it into instructions that made sense on my virtual BT router management console. But setting the correct ports did help me too.
BT Homehubs are notoriously unreliable for anything that requires a stable connection. BT can (and do) make changes to settings remotely often followed by a forced restart and the Homehubs are just generally buggy as hell. The cheapest alternative from Amazon will always be a huge upgrade.

You don't need a dongle for backup internet, any smartphone works as a mobile hotspot and works surprisingly well for poker. Just make sure you don't have anything downloading at the time!
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06-22-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
BT Homehubs are notoriously unreliable for anything that requires a stable connection. BT can (and do) make changes to settings remotely often followed by a forced restart and the Homehubs are just generally buggy as hell. The cheapest alternative from Amazon will always be a huge upgrade.

You don't need a dongle for backup internet, any smartphone works as a mobile hotspot and works surprisingly well for poker. Just make sure you don't have anything downloading at the time!
I think you will find that is 'mobile plan' dependent. I have the basic plan w/ verizon which doesn't allow you to use a smartphone as a mobile hotspot. The plans starting at a few tiers higher do allow you to do that.
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06-22-2016 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Craggoo
I think you will find that is 'mobile plan' dependent. I have the basic plan w/ verizon which doesn't allow you to use a smartphone as a mobile hotspot. The plans starting at a few tiers higher do allow you to do that.
Is that Canada? Works on any UK plan afaik, mine is only £8/month and works fine. Had no idea they could restrict that at the network level!
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06-22-2016 , 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Loki_
Perhaps posters should make it clear what country & what ISP or this will be a useless thread: The short answer is Yes, but not through normal ISP channels which are useless everywhere including no doubt in other galaxies too.

The fault lay with my ISP & their hardware & not with PokerStars. But my ISP [BT who don't give a fig] was useless whereas PokerStars support did all the heavy lifting to get me started on a fix for my problem

I'm UK. I've always used BT Broadband
PC connected to "BT Home Hub 3.0 model A" manufactured by Gigasetrouter via Ethernet cable

I did everything in the instructions provided by PokerStars Henry below except the bolded parts. I couldn't do those because on my particular router I couldn't change MTU & the firmware on it was way out of date. BT basically shrugged their shoulders & sent me repeated useless potted replies. I found a BT engineer through a friend-of-a-friend who called around on his time for free beers & a tinker. He did some magic & upgraded the firmware to a more recent version than BT provides. Bingo - problem solved.

From October 2015:
NOTES

My problems only existed on some gaming/gambling sites & no other types of content [I don't do internet p0rn so can't comment], but I had parental controls disabled + my BT plan was for unlimited data use. I still have some lingering suspicion that BT was choking my comms with sites they didn't approve of, but that could be me in tinfoil hat mode.

I also had a USB stick router from Orange Mobile [£10 topup when I needed to use it] with tiny bandwidth as a backup internet for emergencies & never ever had the same problems. PokerStars very light on the internet.

The ports instructions in the Henry email were generic & it took a lot of internet research to translate it into instructions that made sense on my virtual BT router management console. But setting the correct ports did help me too.
Interesting I haven't been giving instructions of this kind at all as of yet, but he did say it's not the first hop that's an issue. whatever a HOP is. My even bigger problem is the fact I am in a total signal blackspot and cannot get 3G for back up

Last edited by Top Pig; 06-22-2016 at 08:47 PM.
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06-22-2016 , 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coinflipper
you say you have tried multiple isp's. but were they actually seperate? did you do any research into them. in some countries you may see multiple companys offering internet service that you can hire, but there will just be 1 main company renting out a portion of their system to the other companies, so even though you have a contract with 2 diff isp's if they are in fact on the same system you would experience the same issues.

in general no matter what country you live in you should have 2 internet lines from 2 completely different providers. for example:
-1x fiber/dsl/dialup (most telephone companies offer 1 of these 3 options)
-1x cable line.

its pretty much 99% gtd those 2 choices will not have any overlap and use different servers/hubs/routing. if you have both of the above and still experience issues you can grab a 3rd line through the cellular company.

if you still experience issues with all 3 you are SOL
I've had every kind of connection, from virgin cable to sky fibre and so on. From what support have said about it being a problem between my ISP and their servers, switching to someone else should help. ADSL company I'm with is Utility Warehouse, a virtually unheard of company in the UK with no particularly decent reputation. I'm getting a second line fitted to have Sky Fibre running solely to my pc with no one else in the house allowed on it. Guess we'll see
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06-22-2016 , 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Imp
Is that Canada? Works on any UK plan afaik, mine is only £8/month and works fine. Had no idea they could restrict that at the network level!
I'm American
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