It could definitely have the same IP address. The thing that differentiates computers from one another are the MAC addresses. Each computer has a unique MAC address assigned to it on each network (IP). However, I do agree there seems to be more important info being left out by the OP. Shame you live in state that does not have online poker. My regards..

I hope they are giving you your money back. That said this policy does suck but they believe that you might actually be the same person and therefore won't let you play unless you pay "your" debt.

I am reassured by you thinking I am leaving something important out at how shady this situation is. They will give me NO further information, including what his s/n is or was. I didn't know he played Carbon ever at the time we were playing Bovada still.

Also, as stated in OP, I don't play a ton online so my familiarity with the 'Merge' network is slim thus I don't know if he had any accounts on other skins or anything.

I gave up on my case, I accept the ban and am not playing on their network again. Just want everyone else to know how easily they can ban your account and more importantly how little information they will give you when they do so that you are completely defenseless.

Gl all.

Post the email from them please. How did they describe the PlayerB?

This.

It could have the same address (assuming he's using the same network connection, ISP, etc). But as pmarrsouth said, it's pretty unlikely; IP addresses are often dynamically assigned in any event.

The MAC address is irrelevant here unless you're trying to correct some assumed misunderstanding on the part of pmarrsouth (and I'm pretty sure he knows what an IP address and what a MAC address is).

Dear Austin,

Thank you for contacting us.

We have discovered an account related to your account in which legitimate deposits made to our site have been charged-back; that is to say, a stop-payment request was made to the bank or credit card company against those deposits.

It is possible that the charges were not recognized and were reversed inadvertently. However, we cannot proceed with any further transactions on your account until these chargebacks have been repaid via cash transfer.

Therefore we urge you to ask (Player B) to repay these monies as soon as possible so you may continue to use your account.

Please ask (Player B) to contact us so we can provide the instructions for sending this money.

We are always here to help you. Please feel free to reply to this email if you have any additional questions in relation to this or any other matter. Your reference ID for this email is XXXXXXX; please quote this number in any further communication on this subject.

Kind regards,

Adriana Ingram


Also, in chat they confirmed they could not give me any further information including his contact information or provide details to how I am related.

Surely they list "Player B" as a screenname?

Seems like standard policy to me. Move on and play on a different site and just be happy that you don't have money on the account.

I wouldn't pay his debt certainly. Chasing him down doesn't sound like a viable option and would probably or could make things worse. Carbon and merge isn't what it used to be imo. There are better options. I would just let it go and play elsewhere.

yeah, paying his debt seems stupid, and obv he isnt paying it either way, so just sign up at a different site and move on OP

What money is he entitled too?

I thought he said his bank approved it, if carbon never took the money then nothing.

The money that he deposited, he lost. So the issue is really solely about not being able to play on Carbon in the future. I think that depositing on one of the WPN skins or Bovada (although personally I'm not in love with Bovada) would be a better investment.

No they listed his first and last name.

This issue is less about me then the policy and how it could impact everyone. I play online while at the casino while waiting for a seat occasionally. They could link me with other players there that have done the same on the same IP.

Cheap lesson to be very careful where you play and what wifi networks you get on. More so wanted to make the community aware of the potential to be froze with no warning and potentially money on their account. Carbon made it clear this is their policy with or without funds on the account.

I lost 200 and am permabanned till someone else pays a debt. Small price to pay but others could get stuck more. Not looking for anything personally.

Gl all.

lol

I'm still curious as to why Bovada won't let you deposit, either, and exactly how non-related that will be to this story.

Non-related 100% - my bank won't accept it. Not bovada related.

So now you're claiming it's the casino IP? I really feel as if you're leaving out important information. A day later and you're mentioning the casino IP so if you left that out IMO you left something else out.

I really really really find it very very very hard to believe that they would give you the players first and last unless they think you are the same person. Poker aren't into releasing the details of other players information to other people. Post a screenshot/picture of email. You don't care about your "friend" so you shouldn't care if his "name" is out there.

I dont quite understand how you can ever owe a poker site money? How does this work? You deposit, they get the money before they put the funds into your account. Someone help me out

The opposite if you use a credit card and things like bank transfer

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I hope the only reason a site would give out a First Name Last Name like that is if it was their actual screenname - eg Gus Hansen, etc

I read that as him giving a general example of why linking by IP address is flawed, not saying that's the IP address in question here. His OP suggested it was a home address where they had both played.

You read correct. That was an example because I have played at a casino before and have no idea who else could have too so I feel like IP linking is very loose practice.

Also, just because he isn't a friend anymore doesn't make it kosher to release his name publicly when it comes to not paying debt, I don't know his reasons. That being said the person who said maybe it's because his screen name is his full name might be right. They put the name in quotes so I think you might be right. Never thought of that, good catch.

Put the given name into sharkscope or officialpokerrankings.com and see if it yields any results