Mr Eyemene antes 500
havink antes 500
mortsubite antes 500
tommy2tens antes 500
xyris1 antes 500
Janina87 antes 500
hsv-jan2407 antes 500
tommy2tens posts the small blind of 2,000
xyris1 posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tommy2tens [4s Qh]
Janina87 folds
hsv-jan2407 folds
Sugafree147 raises to 6,440, and is all in
mevrouwY calls 6,440
Sugafree147 has been disconnected
Mr Eyemene raises to 8,000
havink folds
mortsubite folds
tommy2tens folds
xyris1 folds
mevrouwY has 15 seconds left to act
mevrouwY calls 1,560
*** FLOP *** [2c 8c Ac]
Sugafree147 has reconnected
mevrouwY has 15 seconds left to act
mevrouwY checks
Sugafree147 has been disconnected
Mr Eyemene checks
*** TURN *** [2c 8c Ac] [2h]
mevrouwY checks
Sugafree147 has reconnected
Mr Eyemene checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 8c Ac 2h] [7h]
mevrouwY checks
Mr Eyemene checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mr Eyemene shows [Qd Qc] two pair, Queens and Twos
mevrouwY mucks
Mr Eyemene wins the side pot (3,120) with two pair, Queens and Twos
Sugafree147 mucks
Mr Eyemene wins the main pot (29,820) with two pair, Queens and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 32,940 Main pot 29,820. Side pot 3,120. | Rake 0
Board: [2c 8c Ac 2h 7h]
Seat 1: Sugafree147 mucked [Js Jh] - two pair, Jacks and Twos
Seat 2: mevrouwY mucked [Ts Kc] - a pair of Twos
Seat 3: Mr Eyemene showed [Qd Qc] and won (32,940) with two pair, Queens and Twos
Seat 4: havink folded before the Flop
Seat 5: mortsubite (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: tommy2tens (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: xyris1 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Janina87 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: hsv-jan2407 folded before the Flop



I might be wrong on this, but surely you can't raise to 8k in this spot? Only thing i can think of is the shove for 6.4k is an underraise and is equivalent to a call, but that seems wrong. anyone...

So you think Mr Eyemene shouldn't be allowed to raise preflop or something?

Edit: the hand is 100% fine

No, I think if it's raised by 2.44k it can't be reraised for 1.56k more. minraise should be 8.88k total. I might have missed something but can you explain why this size raise is ok?

that's what i thought too but then the guy who called him shouldn't be allowed to put in less than 8K either. there's def an inconsistency. either everyone who has a bigger stack should not be allowed to bid less than 2 bbs or if calling <2bb all in raise is allowed then the raiser's min raise should be the difference b/w the all-in amount and the bb * 2 + 1bb.

Definitely looks like a bug. The first guy's raise is 100% certain a call, meaning the second guy should be able to 'call' for 4k - not 6440. And even if the site doesn't implement it that way, then minimum raise amount would then be 6440+4000, not 8k.

Which site?

tilt

SOFTWARE IS sketcy to say the least.!!1

What? I'm either losing my mind or you guys are drunk?

Dude, can you chill please. You are in every ftp thread...we get it.

I was thinking maybe some leveling going on itt, cause from my read of it, since Eyeman hasn't acted yet, he can raise to anything he wants (as long as it's a min raise to 8,000 or more), call the all in or fold.

Or are the people who are questioning it saying that since the all was more than a half raise, anyone else who wants to raise would raise his bet, not the big blind?

No they are pointing out that the rule is:

"All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round"

In this case as the previous (under)raise is 2440, the min raise should be double that.

If the first player had gone allin for 7999, been called by the second and the third had made it 8000, this would apparently be a valid raise, which doesnt seem right (as it re-opens the betting for the caller putting pressure on players still to act).

This hand appears to be from a limit game and perfectly normal.

incorrect. was no-limit

and yeah davmcg said what i was trying to get across, only more succinctly

this is perfectly fine, wtf is going on in here

i was referring to all these tables sticking etc. hence suggesting to op to hit up pokerstars if he wants to multi table brrrraaaaaap

It isn't fine. When an open raise is an under raise, the raise option for the following players should be the greater of twice the last raise or twice the big blind.

(I don't think its a big issue, but it is wrongly programmed)

Full tilt only allows the caller to call the one chip. They can't raise in this position.

I don't understand why you cut off the header of the hand history that explains what game this is in, and therefore, what the applicable rules are.

In FL this is standard, I don't know why it wouldn't be in NL.

You are confused. The third player is raising and whatever amount he raises re-opens the betting for the player who called the allin.

The only debate is what should be the minimum raise.

umm lets try cos they are different games.

No, it doesn't. I've played thousands of SnGs on tilt and a one chip raise does not reopen the betting.

yeah my bad. you can check my tourney history tho and it will show i don't play FL

tommy2tens, can you post the complete hand history please.

well if it does that in nl then I have no idea what rules it thinks its following.

The option to the 3rd player should be fold, call or raise and raising (except for an allin under raise) shold re-open the action for the second player.