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04-13-2008 , 10:46 PM
Is Cake the only site that allows you to change your screename weekly?
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04-13-2008 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by adanthar
because it makes perfect sense for a poker site where you can change nicks weekly to program bots to raketrap the lowest possible limits, never change their names and then make them all come from the same general area. no way it could ever be somebody actually writing a poker bot on their own/coming up with a pushbot strat that works at uNL and then giving it to all their friends, because we know *that* never happens (it's why OP didn't even bother to email support).

don't let me stand in the way of the conspiracy though
Ok, fair enough. I guess it would be stupid of cake not to change their names and keep their locations similar. See, I'm not a conspiracy nut. I like logic and reason. You made a good point.
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04-14-2008 , 04:28 AM
BUMP... here is my evidence... consolidated from previous posts

drmdogg

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...zIjAzcfNzMM%3d

cakeuldate..

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...wojAzcfNzMM%3d

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...wIjAzcfNzMM%3d

pintO

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...xIjAzcfNzMM%3d

rawghotta

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...wIjAzcfNzMM%3d

waddyba

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...xYjAzcfNzMM%3d

drmdogg

https://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?H...zIjAzcfNzMM%3d

notice the odd bet sizes which are not a default slider or pot size...

these bots are on 24 hours a day every day
they are all from the cities in the state of california or arizona

there are many others with the same characteristics
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04-14-2008 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Markusgc
I also don't believe ... that they don't put 10% donkey piss in my milk.


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when the cops come by to take a report. You can't just say "I think Mark has it, and unless you explain why you don't agree that he took it, put him in jail."

Well, ya could say that, but I think you'd probably get some funny looks, and possibly (hopefully?) Maced in the eyes.
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04-14-2008 , 04:43 AM
otc - this is what you should've posted in your OP instead of throwing out names and accusations. It does look really fishy, and doesn't seem like coincidence that they're all raising to 1.x7. I'm curious to see where this goes.
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04-14-2008 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thac
otc - this is what you should've posted in your OP instead of throwing out names and accusations. It does look really fishy, and doesn't seem like coincidence that they're all raising to 1.x7. I'm curious to see where this goes.
Cake CS would be a good starting point.
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04-14-2008 , 07:18 AM
I've only logged around 400 hands on cake but I've definitely noticed suspicious activity going on at the micros. I doubt it's cake itself doing it and it doesn't wreck my game so I don't really care. The only way I can really tell them from the people that just suck is they always buy in for $2 at nl10 and always get up to rebuy instead of just clicking the dealer or the chat button. I guess it's possible they don't know you can rebuy while sitting, but I'd put my money on bots.
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04-14-2008 , 07:28 AM
See, instead of being a douche originally, this could have happened, and Mike Haven wouldn't hate me for trolling.

Investigateaments imo. Too much to be a coincidence.
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04-14-2008 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by basementproject
See, instead of being a douche originally, this could have happened, and Mike Haven wouldn't hate me for trolling.

Investigateaments imo. Too much to be a coincidence.
I would think people will hate you more for making incomprehensible posts.

Who are you accusing of being a douch originally?
What could have happened?
What does "Investigateaments imo" mean (if anything)?
What is too much of a coincidence?

And I don't think you were trolling.

You were clearly annoyed by the OP (or the way it was worded) but instead of acting to quickly bring about a resolution, one way or another, you became obstructive and insulting.
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04-14-2008 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thac
otc - this is what you should've posted in your OP instead of throwing out names and accusations. It does look really fishy, and doesn't seem like coincidence that they're all raising to 1.x7. I'm curious to see where this goes.
peace
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04-14-2008 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
otc - this is what you should've posted in your OP instead of throwing out names and accusations. It does look really fishy, and doesn't seem like coincidence that they're all raising to 1.x7. I'm curious to see where this goes.
I've added a link to OP's new "evidence" post in his OP, for the benefit of new readers.
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04-14-2008 , 12:52 PM
Why would a pokersite run bots instead of offering 100%-110% rakeback to prop players?
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04-14-2008 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iSTRONG
Why would a pokersite run bots instead of offering 100%-110% rakeback to prop players?
prop players don't play 24/7, and I'm guessing it costs less for the site.
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04-14-2008 , 05:34 PM
OP,

Please do me a favour. Next time you're on a $50NL table and it's limped around to you, hit the 'bet 1/2 pot' button and write down the number. Do the same with the 'bet 3/4 pot' button and report back.

I'm thinking these 'suspicious' raises are directly tied to that. The 3/4 raise for $100NL is $4.87 or something after one limper. This would explain why the odd bet sizes increase with pot size - because they're using the handy-dandy buttons provided. There's no mystery if they're simply using the provided short-cuts to best sizes based on the size of the pot.

FWIW, fire off an email to Cake support. If the 'bots' are truly on 24/7, support will pull their accounts ASAFP, they're very proactive with security.

Cheers,
Bubba
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04-14-2008 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba O'Reilly
OP,

Please do me a favour. Next time you're on a $50NL table and it's limped around to you, hit the 'bet 1/2 pot' button and write down the number. Do the same with the 'bet 3/4 pot' button and report back.

WELP, thread's done. Everyone go home now.

(I don't think there's a 3/4 pot button but you're right about the half pot I think)
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04-14-2008 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBeatsCrewDerk
WELP, thread's done. Everyone go home now.

(I don't think there's a 3/4 pot button but you're right about the half pot I think)
with limpers.. the half pot and pot buttons raise to numbers divisible by 5 at 10-20-50 nl
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04-14-2008 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba O'Reilly
OP,

Please do me a favour. Next time you're on a $50NL table and it's limped around to you, hit the 'bet 1/2 pot' button and write down the number. Do the same with the 'bet 3/4 pot' button and report back.

I'm thinking these 'suspicious' raises are directly tied to that. The 3/4 raise for $100NL is $4.87 or something after one limper. This would explain why the odd bet sizes increase with pot size - because they're using the handy-dandy buttons provided. There's no mystery if they're simply using the provided short-cuts to best sizes based on the size of the pot.

FWIW, fire off an email to Cake support. If the 'bots' are truly on 24/7, support will pull their accounts ASAFP, they're very proactive with security.

Cheers,
Bubba
No, these raises are not associated with the pre-set buttons, they are pulled out of somewhere. Throughout each session, over many hands, when they are first to enter the pot, their bet is for that same odd amount (whatever it is calculated to be, 1.77 or whatever). And when they reraise, there are also similar betting patterns associated with those reraises.
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04-14-2008 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
I've added a link to OP's new "evidence" post in his OP, for the benefit of new readers.
You're such a MightyMod
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04-14-2008 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by questions
No, these raises are not associated with the pre-set buttons, they are pulled out of somewhere. Throughout each session, over many hands, when they are first to enter the pot, their bet is for that same odd amount (whatever it is calculated to be, 1.77 or whatever). And when they reraise, there are also similar betting patterns associated with those reraises.
You're right, I'm an idiot and confused cake's interface with a different one. That's what I get for posting from work.

Sorry for the confusion,
Bubba
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04-15-2008 , 03:50 AM
Cake has props, I don't think they need bots to fill seats. LOL.
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04-15-2008 , 04:11 AM
I found this thread by typing a few Cake names into google and this was the result. I had a suspicion that foldur99 was a bot for a while. I noticed that the tables had more shortstacks than other sites and they were raising to $1.37 and other weird amounts a lot. They take the same amount of time to make each decision. They don't respond in chat (I asked a few of them if they were bots - I know some people don't chat, but you'd think someone would at least respond to THAT). They always raise or fold. They fold to min-raises all the time. And there's multiples of them.


Email Cake support if you want. I won't - I don't really care that they are there, I'm more interested in how to exploit them? Do they just play 77+ and AJ+? Can you isolate them heads up? (i'm guessing no, but maaaaybe)
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04-15-2008 , 04:47 AM
Also, I'm pretty sure drmdogg is one too.
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04-15-2008 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
...They don't respond in chat (I asked a few of them if they were bots - I know some people don't chat, but you'd think someone would at least respond to THAT).
This alone means nothing.

On sites that have the facility I have chat turned off so never even see it.

If I have to have it on I completely ignore it.
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04-15-2008 , 05:37 AM
Also, dubok is NOT one

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