Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokernutz1954
Bodog Ice,
your response seems to indicate it is ok:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice View Post
...the network will not comment on any specific software, but any information that is being gathered for use of that session only, by the player.. and is information that could be tracked via pencil and paper.. can be used.
However, the email response I got from Bovada seems to say otherwise:
In line with your inquiry about using a Hold'em indicator, we'd like to inform you that we don't allow such application or software to run together with Bovada Poker. According to our Terms of Service under 6.3. No Player Assistance Programs: Use by players of external player assistance programs ("EPA Programs") which are designed to provide players with an unfair advantage over their opponents are expressly prohibited. We define EPA Programs as including computer software and non-software-based databases or profiles (e.g., web sites and subscription services) and we consider access to or the ability to gather data or information on other players by any means that would not be accessible via their own first-hand experience (i.e. observation of game play) to be "unfair". We reserve the right to close Accounts and void any and all winnings in such Accounts if we establish, in our reasonable discretion, the use of an EPA Program.
That says the same thing as Bodog_Ice...
What it is saying is that the program cannot help you in any way that you couldn't help yourself.
Technically, you could do what Hold'em Indicator does by hand with a piece of paper and a pen. It would be tedious, and hard to keep up with, especially for more than one table, but since it is *technically* possible, the software meets their TOS.
An example of software that violates this TOS would include any software that shared data with other players. This is probably not an issue on Bovada, as anonymous tables limits the usefulness of database sharing. But that is what they are after here.
Also, while this isn't explicitly covered here, any software that plays for you is in violation of the TOS.
I hope this helps clear up your question.
~gtp