How do I set up a poll here? I want to do a pool and take a vote to see if peole prefer anonymous tables or brining back screen names. Thanks



Mod edit: The first ~130 posts were brought here from the Bodog thread, and I have created this thread and poll for OP.

majority of people that play at bovada prefer anonymous. majority of people that play elsewhere, don't like the concept of anonymous.

just tryna save you some time...

and, obv, bottom line, the anonymous tables are perfect for bovada's business model so nothing is changing in that regard

Yes I know they won't change but I want to prove to them that more people don't want it. They tell me they do what customers want so let's see. Les really see if they do what we want.

If we take a poll lets see the results, then bovada can review and if more people like anon tables then fine if not then let's see what they do. So how do I set up the poll?

Like totaltool said, Bovada's business model goes hand in hand with anon tables.

Also, a 2+2 poll will not be an accurate representation of Bovada players and would be meaningless as "proof" to Bovada management that players don't want anon tables. They have taken their stance and made it clear to seek other options if you don't like it.

I understand but I speak to them in the phone a lot. They tell me if players want something differnet they will listen. I understand they are anonymous cuz they don't there rec players losing too much too fast.
What is the problem tho? Let me do the poll. Why does it bother u?

I see you've been around our forums long before the change to anonymous players was made, but I have to assume from your posts that you weren't all that active when it happened.

When they made the change, there was a massive ****storm on our forums. No poll was needed - it was very, very clear that the vast majority of our members hated the change. Not only did Bodog not feel inclined to reverse their decision based on that feedback, they came out with public statements explaining that this was being done as part of their recreational model, and it was pretty apparent that they weren't all unhappy that players like 2+2 regs didn't like the change. In fact, I'd say that some were given the impression that Bodog was pleased about it.

Given that the model has been very successful for them, I can't imagine a 2+2 poll having even the slightest chance of changing their minds now.

If anyone from Bovada is reading this forum, I for one would like to say something: I love the anonymous tables and I play every day. But even people that ask me which sites they can play on are almost always drawn to the anonymous tables of Bovada. People like to be able to play without players making moves on them based on some information in a HUD that was collected a month earlier. That's information they would never have remembered just using their own brain. And yes, I do play on sites that allow Holdem Manager and I have a HUD going, but if those sites went to anonymous play I wouldn't mind one single bit. There's enough to think about in poker as it is. I don't want some statistician bluffing me off the best hand because he can see my "fold to turn check raise IP in a 3bet pot HU" yada yada yada.

9/10 statisticians are ******s on the felt, trust me, I make stats up for living.

I teach mathematics and statistics for a living, and I actually prefer anonymous tables (though it's not a strong preference).

I love the anonymous tables. I hate the current downswing I'm in on the site but the anonymous tables are great. And if you're actually good at poker, it shouldn't take too long to figure out who the bad players are and who the good players are at the table.

U are insane. Anonymous tables are the worst thing for poker. U can only improve so much playing these tables. They are useles. If u like them the I really don't understanding how to play the player

Losing players love anon tables. It allows them to hide. Winners would never love these tables.

One reason for a winning player to possibly like them could be the fact that losing players love them.

Give it up already. It's like someone touched you inappropriately at an anonymous table or something. You do have other options....

Not the point. Customers should have the day on how a business's makes money. If we don't like it we should be able to demand change. Why should a site dictate how we play the game we love? Demand change. Too many people are sheep and say well it's just how it is. We got the power to effect change.dont sit by idle. Let's move on something. This is why politicians get away with all the stuff they do. People just sit by and do nothing.

But no matter how u slice it, winning players will just win less on bovada. No notes, no table selection skills needed. So u can attract all the fish I want all u can do on that site is play your cards. U can never play the player long term so as a winner I win less. And yes I get it it works for bovada model. Let fish lose slower I get it, just seems unfair to winners don't it?

Thousands of players "have the day" and decide not to play on Bovada. Any customer can do the same.

Slice it this way for example: sometimes when playing 5 untrackable fish you can win *more* than when playing 1 trackable fish and 4 trackable winners.

We are really in control here. We all sit out for weeks what so we lose.....a few weeks of poker? What do they lose.....billions if we don't play. They would have no choice but to change. And I don't care who u are anon tables benefit 2 groups of players.....1. The best I the world who get no action cuz people know their screen names(non of which play on bovada) and the super fish who just lose slower cuz they can't be exploited. No other group if players benefit. They have no rakeback and grinders, slight winners, break even players get no benefit. Let's demand some change

The stupid of your post hurts.

1. They don't makes billions
2. Poker is not important to them compared to sports or casino
3. Why should they encourage grinders that make the game worse?
4. 2+2 is such a small fraction of the player base it won't be noticeable.

They don't make billions? I bet they do. Not off just poker obv. The point is they still make 10's of millions off it. And trust me any business wold care if they lost that much revenue.
Why does poker stars encourage grinders? Why don't they go anon then? If it's more profit for sites why don't they all do it?
It's just bad for the game. Sites have a responsibility to preserve the pure was of poker. This is why some sites don't do it
Everything u guys disagree with is stupid why?

Anonymous tables are amazing AINEC! All the way up to 10/20. Ive played almost 200k hands in the last 6 months and I love these tables. Its like playing live poker on the internet. If you don't like it don't play here. Go play on WPN or Carbon and datamine on players so that when you sit down you have an unfair advantage and even though you've never played a hand with some players you may have 10,000 or more hands in your database on that person. Yeah that sounds like poker at its finest.

Oh and FWIW some of the best players in the country do play on Bovada so...

I don't data mine. I don't even have a HUD. Don't beleive in them. It's not the point tho. If I played live and saw the same people evey day I would have that info on them. U can never have that on bovada. And I bet most ofthe best players do not play there.

Bovada is great. You are wrong about everything.

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Lol. Great if u are a losing player and u lose slower due to no screen names, then yeah it's great. In live casinos we should all be made to wear a mask so u can't see a face and keep notes on a player for the next time u playthem. Take the whole people element out of the game and just the cards u are dealt. Sounds great. Poker a people game played with cards unless u play at bovada turn it's a card game played with cards.

They don't even give u guys rakeback.