The two wins were a week apart. For arguements sake after the first win no alarm bells were set off, some cash was withdrawn then player transfers were made to players that then set off alarm bells. Then pokerstars act. Have you considered this!

I didn't consider that, because while a lot is not clear it is clear that OP had a FullTilt account that logged in at the same time and PC as a Stars account not in OP's name. This should be noticeable for Stars upon any standard security-check.

So clearly the mysterious XXXXX played the tourneys from OP's account.

Too bad in hindsight they were freerolls.

Haha, you didn't think to ask?!?!

i finished 14th in the mil and havent seen a dime in refund

How much more is 13th place money?

Dodgy Ruskis ITT( InTheTourney)

OP has been online multiple times recently and hasn't even tried to provide more information on this thread, pretty sure the thread didn't go the way he wanted, and he just wants to wait it out at this point.

OP, provide all of the emails every single one both sides of the conversation, with no names taken out, if you really are innocent in all of this, this is super easy decision to make to try to get the forum on your side.

Don't try to doctor any emails or not post some of them that make you look guilty, all of them is the only way to get the forum to believe you.

YES lol really! feeling a little sarcastic today? and have to point out what everybody knows? not having any lately? come on

The problem for the OP is that around here he has to make the case. It is bad enough that he loses approximately half the money without any real, identifying fault relating to the game he won the money in being attributed or alleged against him that on top he has to make the case why he shouldn't have lost that money when really it should be up to P/S to prove it. But as with other examples p/s decisions are almost immune to challenge and the only real thing that is holding P/S back from making more arbitrary decisions like this is that it needs to protect its market leader image.

You really think he sold his account?, who has to buy a account that is this good?, is there someone that has been banned that is this good?, i ask this questions in all seriousness, because there has to be more to it i think, some kind of hacking?,software?,more people involved? right or is there a mysterious savant,brilliant youngster?.

Because if he committed fraud,cheated then it opens a whole other can of worms, in how did he/they do it, and that is going to be a guessing game with no answer, and if he/they did, it is probably going to be attempted again, then i hope ps has a alarm/understanding of spotting it if it does, because if they have not, well everybody that plays these tourneys doesn't have much chance of winning a tourney like this.

But like i said if he/they cheated, it all stays a guessing game, but i am glad that i am not a on-line player on these stakes because it would be in the back of my! mind, but he that is me.

i understand that he sold his account to someone from a place that cannot access pokerstars.com, like the united states or france, not because special attributes that account has.

Is it illegal to play on stars and ftp at the same time? or did i miss that he was on both with the same account?

How do you know? Based on the details that he provided in the thread so far?

Ok but it still has to be a hell of a lucky guy or a never seen before good player, if i see the comments on how rare it is that some guy wins those 2 tourneys in a row, but i guess anything is possible right?

there are a lot more factors to this and I would like the OP to say them. i played him a couple of times in $30 plo hyper or something. i found him douchey towards me and made notes. i believe i was the first on 2+2 to suggest something was not right. if i post some additional material pokerstars would be pissed at me, it really is down to OP to be honest or pokerstars to make a statement saying how much was seized and how it was redistributed. They really should make a statement on this as it looks good on them, how much of the truth if any they want to reveal is down to them. it was not the fact he simply won 2 tournaments in a row that drew my attention to him. quite often after a player gets their first big score they get another soon after. they play a few more tournaments, feel more confident, don't mind losing so much and can call for their tournament/bluff more often. agrodonk absolutely won't tell the truth as it proves stars are right. i think a push towards pokerstars saying how the money was redistributed is better. agrodonk would obviously like to know how stars knew so in future they can find away around this. stars have a few elements with regards to making sure the game is clean and secure that obviously they don't want made public.

so pokerstars care to give more info on how the money was redistributed? at the end of the day if u make a statement on this it will perhaps deter more people from doing the same!

Wait, do you believe PokerStars hasn't told OP why he's been banned and had his money confiscated? LOL if you think OP has been even a little forthcoming in all of this, plus it's not like PokerStars can just come into this thread and lay out their evidence, that would be giving up information their license doesn't allow them to.

It is 100% on OP to provide all the information, because PokerStars can't.

Isn't op screwed if stars already paid out reperations to affected players? Op full of crap hasn't provided any proof of innoence prob because he is guilty as sin.

That sounds ****ed up, doesn't it?

If you have something significant to post, post it. There are stealth options.

Send it to the GhostBusters account, he can disclose the material without Stars knowing who you are.

Surely there's more to the story, in a way tho the emails from Stars really only pinpoint 2 different accounts being on HIS computer & ISP at the same time as the problem, at some point in the past (which doesnt look like Ghosting). But they do also mention what his relationship is with several other players, which he hasn't really responded to.

OP why not tell us those other player names what is there to hide? If I was fighting for life changing money & for some reason a couple of mates low stakes average Joe usernames were mentioned I'm sure they wouldnt have a problem being 'revealed'.

And yeah the part about being on Skype at that set time or we'll confiscate the funds & the other mention of respond within 48 hours or kiss ur funds goodbye didnt sit right with me

punterz, can you pm that info to a mod so that he can tell if its suitable to post it?

Why hasn't OP responded? I know if I had 250k locked up and was innocent I would be on here day and night trying to figure it out.

He has probably realized how futile his plight is and accepted his consequences as he is indeed guilty of breaking the tos. This is by far the worst thread of a player feigning innocence though highest in amount confiscated.

ehh I'm pretty sure there were some comical ones posted years ago from the people who colluded in PokerStars DONs