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07-03-2008 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin Foolz
op should definitely be banned and fined. but taking his entire bankroll of 50k is extreme.

what if a guy playing1k-2k sitngoes with a bankroll of 1mil and with a fiend is doing the same thing op did, is ftp right to take the whole mil? even if such player built that roll not only with sitngoes and did the friend thingie only sporadically?

say u get caught doing this live at a casino with a friend, will they kick you out? yes.
will they ban u? yes.
will/can they fine u? possibly
will they tell u to dig up and bring back all your lifetime casino monies for confiscation? no.

If you were caught cheating at the casino would they take all of your money you have in their currency (chips) you have at the casino? yes....
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07-03-2008 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin Foolz
say u get caught doing this live at a casino with a friend, will they kick you out? yes.
will they ban u? yes.
will/can they fine u? possibly
will they tell u to dig up and bring back all your lifetime casino monies for confiscation? no.
fyi, the penalties for a person who "cheat[s] at a gambling game" in Nevada:


NRS 465.088 Penalties for violation of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive.

1. A person who violates any provision of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive, is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished:

(a) For the first offense, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by both fine and imprisonment.

(b) For a second or subsequent violation of any of these provisions, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $10,000. The court shall not suspend a sentence of imprisonment imposed pursuant to this paragraph, or grant probation to the person convicted.



It's unclear what recourse the casino has to recover funds won by cheating. But nonetheless I think losing $50k is far preferable to being a convicted felon and serving a year or more in prison.
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07-03-2008 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by whazup46
This is a really horrible argument.
still loads better than yours tho.

If you can't see why your arguement is so dumb, no explaining in the world will help you.
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07-03-2008 , 04:28 AM
Softplaying in cashgames and softplaying in sit and goes its totally different.

In a cash game other players are rarely hurt by two people softplaying eachother.

In a sit and go, two players softplaying eachother gives each of them a HUDGE edge over the other players.

Softplaying on a bubble is the cash game equivalent of raising people out of the pot.
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07-03-2008 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by delaney_kid
If you were caught cheating at the casino would they take all of your money you have in their currency (chips) you have at the casino? yes....
my point is they do not make u return your lifetime winnings from the casino.

say i build my online roll say to 500k from playing various poker games (ie holdem, omaha, stud), and i happen to dome some of what the op was doing with a friend sometimes at sitngoes holdem, if i get caught, i think losing my entire 500k is extreme.
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07-03-2008 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
fyi, the penalties for a person who "cheat[s] at a gambling game" in Nevada:


NRS 465.088 Penalties for violation of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive.

1. A person who violates any provision of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive, is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished:

(a) For the first offense, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by both fine and imprisonment.

(b) For a second or subsequent violation of any of these provisions, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $10,000. The court shall not suspend a sentence of imprisonment imposed pursuant to this paragraph, or grant probation to the person convicted.



It's unclear what recourse the casino has to recover funds won by cheating. But nonetheless I think losing $50k is far preferable to being a convicted felon and serving a year or more in prison.
thanks for posting. i was wondering myself what nevada does/would do.

what i think i notice from the rules is that a first offense is either 10k only or 10k plus jail or just jail. that means there is a possibility u only get fined 10k for getting caught cheating the first time.
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07-03-2008 , 05:28 AM
wow this forum is one piece of sh*t

seriously this is internet gambling not nvg or whatever.

playing with friends is one thing. i always avoided this because what happened to OP.
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07-03-2008 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin Foolz
my point is they do not make u return your lifetime winnings from the casino.

say i build my online roll say to 500k from playing various poker games (ie holdem, omaha, stud), and i happen to dome some of what the op was doing with a friend sometimes at sitngoes holdem, if i get caught, i think losing my entire 500k is extreme.
Yeh because thats ******edly unrealistic which is why i made my point. FTP cant make him return ne cash he has withdrawn earnt from nefarious activities but they sure as hell should take whatever they have access to. I used 2 grind alotta SNG's and if i was playin with u and found out this was going on i'd hunt u down and punch u square in the ovary.

Seriously good idea mentioned earlier, go and post this in the SNG forum and see how many people want ur blood u degenerate *******.
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07-03-2008 , 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin Foolz
if i get caught, i think losing my entire 500k is extreme.
IF you have 500k in your account, you'd better make DAMN sure your actions are above reproach. The consequences are clear. If you were to decide to cheat anyway, that's your choice to risk your account.
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07-03-2008 , 06:42 AM
Get chandlerparsons to come here and post his version of the story also.
I'd think he'd be irked enough at FTP taking his money also he'd want to get a few words in by now if only to have your back.
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07-03-2008 , 08:13 AM
Of course- by now- with a little looking we know that chandlerparsons is actually spelled ChAnDlErPaRsOnS.

And that's interesting because of this thread title at P5s started by one Trevor Pope. (Keep in mind there is almost no crossover play in Mtts between the _UrMyFincalAid_, T_pope004, and ChAnDlErPaRsOnS accounts)

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...568110#2568110

Now I'm not a huge believer in a lot of coincidences so I had to look thru some more posts and came across this one.

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...769946#2769946

which is a last longer bet thread started by Trevor Pope at P5s that manages to involve both (more?) of the aggrieved parties from the other very similar thread in the zoo by Raj321, and very few other people.

One more point of interest. Trevor Pope is listed as being from Margate, Florida in his P5s profile.
Raj321 implies he plays at the seminole hard rock cafe (Florida) in this thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=191885&page=5

Margate to the Hard Rock is a fairly short jaunt.

I'm not saying there's anything funky going on. I'll leave that up to others to determine.
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07-03-2008 , 09:29 AM
lol, nh apefish
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07-03-2008 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by apefish
It would be interesting to also find out when the UrMy and chandlerparsons accounts started sngs and at what level.
I'm not going to shell out the whole $1 it would cost to get this information exactly, but here's the $0.08 version...

ChAnDlErPaRsOnS played fewer than 50 SNGs per month Nov 2007-Feb 2008. There was no activity for March and April, 2008. It played 889 and 389 SNGs in May and June, 2008, respectively.

_UrMyFincalAid_ played 50-200 games per month in Jan, Feb, March of 2008. It played 650 in April and 495 in May. It played 204 in June, the last one being on June 23.
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07-03-2008 , 10:41 AM
Here's absolute proof of of multi-accounting at FTP



http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...769321#2769321
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07-03-2008 , 10:41 AM
Also....

ChAnDlErPaRsOnS _UrMyFincalAid_ Combined
Total Played 1388 1774
Played Together 187 187
Av. ROI Apart 3% 12% 7.5%
Av. ROI Together 13% -2% 5.5%


T_pope004 has never played with either ChAnDlErPaRsOnS or _UrMyFincalAid_.
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07-03-2008 , 11:14 AM
Can someone plz summarise this and send a copy to ftp? who knows how many accounts this cheating ****ing scumbag has got.
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07-03-2008 , 11:48 AM
Good choice of words, I switched to my brothers account cause it had rakeback and I wasnt going to miss out on 75k a year in free money from rakeback, i suppose thats cheating too? lol this forum is so funny, you guys keep thinking you find sneaky stuff and that I am up to something. BTW I am already back on ftp, now lets play the game where you guys try to find out which player I am. I'l give you clues. I play hu plo a alot, i play lots of sngs at a time, i have under 200 sng games to my name, and played a couple mtts so far...lets hear the guesses?????????????????????/
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07-03-2008 , 12:29 PM
i hope you have a lot of money on there and they catch you again.
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07-03-2008 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by _UrMyFincalAid_
Good choice of words, I switched to my brothers account cause it had rakeback and I wasnt going to miss out on 75k a year in free money from rakeback, i suppose thats cheating too? lol this forum is so funny, you guys keep thinking you find sneaky stuff and that I am up to something. BTW I am already back on ftp, now lets play the game where you guys try to find out which player I am. I'l give you clues. I play hu plo a alot, i play lots of sngs at a time, i have under 200 sng games to my name, and played a couple mtts so far...lets hear the guesses?????????????????????/
Just a guess...but I think a MOD can get any IP you used on here and send it to FTP.....and I know they can match IP to users...so....you may have screwed yourself here.
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07-03-2008 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
...you may have screwed yourself here.
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I think he did that with the OP
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07-03-2008 , 01:34 PM
I loved when someone said earlier about "in the real world". That's the problem. I think because online poker is "borderline" legal/not legal in the states, the threat of real punishment for cheaters like this guy (JAIL time) doesn't really exist.
To me cheating is the same as stealing. Any form of cheating. I hope this guy gets busted again too.
2+2 is a great resource for poker education. Scumbags like this guy are making all the hard work done in strategy forums less useful.
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07-03-2008 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim Pickens
Also....

ChAnDlErPaRsOnS _UrMyFincalAid_ Combined
Total Played 1388 1774
Played Together 187 187
Av. ROI Apart 3% 12% 7.5%
Av. ROI Together 13% -2% 5.5%


T_pope004 has never played with either ChAnDlErPaRsOnS or _UrMyFincalAid_.
so what this tells me is that when they play together there combined ROI has actually dropped. Ur went to a negative ROI. seems like softplaying actually helped the other players at hand collectively
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07-03-2008 , 02:23 PM
This guy should be banned from all live tournaments.
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07-03-2008 , 02:25 PM
I don't think it's a given that there is a "they" beyond the account names at this point.
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07-03-2008 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by _UrMyFincalAid_
Good choice of words, I switched to my brothers account cause it had rakeback and I wasnt going to miss out on 75k a year in free money from rakeback, i suppose thats cheating too? lol this forum is so funny, you guys keep thinking you find sneaky stuff and that I am up to something. BTW I am already back on ftp, now lets play the game where you guys try to find out which player I am. I'l give you clues. I play hu plo a alot, i play lots of sngs at a time, i have under 200 sng games to my name, and played a couple mtts so far...lets hear the guesses?????????????????????/
What about ur seized funds?
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