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08-26-2010 , 09:27 AM

volumeiskey

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

Fact 1: These used to be the fishiest sngs imo

Fact 2: It's simple, almost every time I check the lobby it's filled with regs (8+ per sng)

Fact 3: Peace

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08-26-2010 , 09:55 AM

entim

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,004

Yes.

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08-26-2010 , 09:58 AM

volumeiskey

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

have you stopped playing them because of this?

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08-26-2010 , 10:00 AM

entim

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,004

No, i've just been lazy...recently moved up to 27s/38s/60s sometimes they are softer there. Depends on the time of day, you might say there are at the very least 6 winning regs at the $16s for a few hours at a time or just 1-2 regs at other times

That said, a lot of the regs suck. So maybe their 0-5% ROIs will drive them out eventually (when they start maintaining them...the ones that enjoy the reg gangbangs will have too see this as a reality soon)

I remember listening to an interview with Spacegravy about High Stakes SnGs and how they are becoming just plain unprofitable post rakeback for some regs, they will have to move on if they lose money

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08-26-2010 , 10:09 AM

piteiracorp

adept

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 941

Fact 1: I never knew, only started playing them in 2010

Fact 2: true, babysit lobby ftw

Fact 3: same to u bro

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08-26-2010 , 10:14 AM

entim

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,004

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Originally Posted by piteiracorp

Fact 2: true, babysit lobby ftw

I thought I was the only one

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08-26-2010 , 10:42 AM

clownklauen

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,409

better dont try MS then, just 6 regs in 27+ is a wet dream from a long forgotten past

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Originally Posted by entim

bla bla
That said, a lot of the regs suck.
bla bla

agree, i suck balls.still, and you know this very well, every single 0-5% fishreg takes off your money, increases variance, cuts roi bla bla etc etc

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08-26-2010 , 10:53 AM

volumeiskey

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

Wondering if it is +ev to just grind the $6.5 now haha

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08-26-2010 , 10:56 AM

volumeiskey

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

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Originally Posted by clownklauen

better dont try MS then, just 6 regs in 27+ is a wet dream from a long forgotten past

agree, i suck balls.still, and you know this very well, every single 0-5% fishreg takes off your money, increases variance, cuts roi bla bla etc etc

MS is? (A)

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08-26-2010 , 11:04 AM

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dybboss

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,514

every type of sng in 2010 at stars is dying, only hu pwners and 180man grinders are in good shape

people are just stupid, as an example in 9mans i sometimes see 9 winning players in sng, cant those idiots check out the lobby before starting their session? How can they consider themselves REGS if they join -EV games on daily basis. pffffffffffffff

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08-26-2010 , 11:08 AM

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entim

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,004

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Originally Posted by volumeiskey

Wondering if it is +ev to just grind the $6.5 now haha

Very much so, they are still fine

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08-26-2010 , 11:13 AM

#12

clownklauen

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,409

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Originally Posted by volumeiskey

MS is? (A)

mid stakes
ls=low (l) stakes
hs=high stakes

just as the lobby shows it more or less.

entim stop playing around, thread is serious imo.

Last edited by clownklauen; 08-26-2010 at 11:14 AM. Reason: dyboss: REG doesnt stand for good player automatically, nor intelligent person.

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08-26-2010 , 11:20 AM

#13

volumeiskey

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

Well I guess I avg. more per game in $16 than in $6.5 even tho $16 is a regfest but maybe it wouldn't be so dumb to switch to $12 45s and 180s instead.

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08-26-2010 , 11:26 AM

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jonkeponke

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 398

16s (and all 18 mans) are still profitable. most of the regs suck anyway, but like clown said, even a sucky reg hurts your roi.

that being said yes, i've seen 16s that pop with 10+ winning players in it. fortunately they pop so fast that within a few minutes most of the regs have enough tables. wish that was true for midstakes

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08-26-2010 , 12:50 PM

#15

retam

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,590

Most of the regs suck, I'm not sure about that. Of course some of them do suck, but most of the regs make mistakes, that's a reality, I have never seen a top reg I've been playing a lot against not make at least one big mistake. Or maybe I just suck so much that I can't even tell the difference !

Still, the games are profitable for the best regs, but a lot of weaker regs should probably play less tables/lower stakes/different types of games, that's for sure. A lot of people just play higher stakes/more tables until they reach a point where their hourly diminishes, and never come back to where they made more $$$, question of ego i suppose...

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08-26-2010 , 02:18 PM

#16

qeloton

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 127

Feel like the rois of all the top regs are declining because of this. I think I should learn a different game just too lazy at this point....just want my paycheck. We'll see what happens...i used to run at like 1.20$ a game in the 6s

Think we lost powelljam and milesaway and gained like 10-15 pros :\

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08-26-2010 , 02:25 PM

#17

piteiracorp

adept

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 941

i mostly agree with retam, and even the fish now are smarter

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08-26-2010 , 02:28 PM

#18

volumeiskey

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

Yeah I don't like this at all. Sometimes I'm ready to open up some tables but totally bail when I see 8-10 solid regs in the lobby. I'd rather not play than play with a bunch of regs.
$1.20 a game in the 6s is pretty sick imo and I doubt it's sustainable? But I'm considering to give the 6s a try again if the 16s regs won't calm down

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08-26-2010 , 03:18 PM

#19

RagzToRiches

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,958

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Originally Posted by dybboss

[ ] every type of sng in 2010 at stars is dying, only hu pwners and 180man grinders are in good shape

agree

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08-26-2010 , 03:48 PM

#20

Sharkzilla1

adept

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 834

These things have been dead for like a year. They were straight gold mines back in the day though.

Also I think everyone just grossly overestimates how good they really are and how "bad" every other reg is.

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08-26-2010 , 04:05 PM

#21

HomeStar

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,571

no money in $16's, everyone's solid.

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08-26-2010 , 04:37 PM

#22

buzz12586

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,292

LOL @ complaining about other people doing the exact same thing you are doing.

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08-26-2010 , 04:42 PM

#23

Verstehen

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,694

you could also consider a form of big-bet poker where you're more than 12 bb deep most of the time, such as full ring cash, 6max cash, HU cash, omaha, PLO8, deep-stack MTTs, HU non-turbo SNGs, etc etc. Just a thought.

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08-26-2010 , 04:51 PM

#24

volumeiskey

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

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Originally Posted by buzz12586

LOL @ complaining about other people doing the exact same thing you are doing.

lol @ you (just a little tho)

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08-26-2010 , 07:42 PM

#25

clownklauen

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,409

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Originally Posted by Verstehen

i cant shove i dont play.

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