I think he said that he was constantly being disconnected. I recall reading something like that. Could be wrong though.

That's not his home IP.

This AllUrChips guy is not a very intelligent person.

Still no response from WPN rep ... this is stupid. I don't care if this dude is lying or not. I want to hear both sides of the story which the WPN rep made it seem there was.

For my low post count like someone earlier stated I come from the other forum and figured there was more interest in this post than over there which is correct. Hope resolution comes to light soon.

And you are chiefs fan...were even in intelligence. So tell me smart guy, why am I "not a very intelligent person"? Tell me....

All WPN needs to do is let us know that they did an investigation and had their findings to justify what they did. Even with Winning_TD's first post in this thread (which is pretty unprofessional), he doesn't need to come back and make the full details public. And I hope he doesn't.

I don't feel comfortable keeping money on a site that would do such a thing, and I'm sure many others agree with me.

If the findings are posted in this thread it should be OP pasting an e-mail from WPN that include them or whatever outcome their investigation reached. Not from WPN making them public.

Actually I'm not a Chiefs fan at all. And it's we're*.

Keep searching for those nonexistent 25-50 PLO results on Sharkscope though.

Nothing is adding up.

You're right. But I am having a hard time understanding why a hacker would spend 5 or 6 hours playing a $10 tournament, rather than getting in and out as fast as possible.

So many trolls on here this is a site made to help each other out from getting scammed from these off shore sites and many other things. There is ppl hating and trolling its a ffing joke. Lets all just wait and see how this pans out no need to be calling this guy a lair. This site is a joke anyways you know how easy it is to get in someones account on the winning poker network? Very easy all you need is a few things about that player that you could get from face book and other online networks. There security is a huge joke. I am going to bring this all out so it dose not happen to anyone. So WPN Rep if you want to pm so i can give you this info feel free. I am sure there will be trolls attacking me after this post. After the mill mtt i have removed all my funds from my account after a sh** show it was to get my money back.

SC,

It also shows that he was only logged in for a total of 17 minutes on the 16th which doesn't make any sense. Nothing makes sense. Maybe OP is dreaming and we're all a figment of his imagination and we don't actually exist...

Why would it make sense if in fact WPN was the one who took the money? Still no response from the wpn rep where you at??? OP has been on poc 5s since 06 why would he feel the need to make this all up?

You accuse people of trolling then turn around and blame WPN for stealing the money, nice.

You may want to read before you just post real quick. Never said they stole just saying what OP had said he thinks they had took his money like i said read no need to turn this thread into a pissing war. this guy lost 10k and yes i will stand by the player before i stand by any site. I have had my fare share of bs with them. That being said i am not blaming anyone here.

You never know, but I bet some how some way it has something to do with OP that has caused him his headanche.

Except that's not even close to what he said. Try reading the title...

You're just trying to scare me.

OK, it worked.

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I find these questions odd. Not necessarily what you're asking but that' you're asking and given some of your other posts ITT and general cynicism in these types of threads it's coming across like blaming the victim.

Assuming OP isn't behind the missing money... Most people don't know how to deal with these situations as it's not something that happens every day to everyone. It sucks. People in these situations need help. Helping others, that's what community is about. He may not know how to investigate much on his end and almost 50 posts into this thread there hasn't been much advice in that regard but a whole lot of suspicion and accusations against OP.

Imagine this wasn't a poker site but a bank instead. While you're on the phone with them trying to arrange a large transfer to make a big purchase the money in your account goes missing and nobody bothers to tell you. You ask them about what happened and they, who should have a lot more knowledge in regards to these things and access to information you don't that can help you tell you "The money was transferred to another account but everything looks normal from here. Not our problem. Case closed." And you see clearly things aren't normal... How would you react? I know that's one institution I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting with money again.

While I don't think a site is responsible for the money in all cases where an account is hacked they should have the tools, information and resources to help someone out in that situation. If they don't or choose not to, as seems to be the case based on the email OP shared, that's a good thing for others in the community to know.

I get it. A lot of times these types of threads turn out not to be what the OP claims. So what. What does anyone replying lose by trying to help instead of being accusatory? Nothing other than the ability to later post "Ha! I knew it!" So many people come here looking for help in one way or another. Everything from "did I play this hand correctly?" to "ZOMG THE INTERWEB STOLE MY MONEY!" While the cases where the OP winds up being some sort of scammer are small in comparison, they are usually memorable but isn't worth giving everyone the benefit of the doubt (including the sites) and trying to help better in the long run?

OP has a problem and I'm sure that a number of posters on here can contribute some information that might help him. Worst case scenario they waste some of their time if OP is full of **** but that information may later wind up helping someone else. It's not like OP is asking people to chip in and make up the money he lost.

He was accused of lying about playing in that tourney.

i kinda changed sides after reading the whole thread.

op seems to dance around facts and he's not insta posting proof.

imo, dude woulda posted all his proof already if their was any

Or he could be keeping his cards to himself until WPN shows their hand.

Did op feed the gremlins after midnight
They have been known to cause hell

The problem is that he's not even open to the idea of checking things out on his end. If he were, he would be asking how. That's a red flag in itself, on top of the fact that the WPN rep says he's not telling the whole story.

We all want to help people with legitimate problems, but people who come on here and make up stories about things vastly outnumber them. It makes it hard for the honest ones to get help, and it should not be tolerated.

I don't know if this applies to OP or not, that's why the WPN rep should post their side of the story so we can all judge for ourselves. Just coming on here and making an insinuation that OP is not telling the whole truth, and threatening to do so in an attempt to make him drop the issue, is a bad policy and also casts some suspicion back on WPN.

OP does not seem like the most technically competent person*, so I dont think he always knows his home IP. He has used 4-5 different IPs since 22nd Oct (according to that screenshot you posted), then there is the supposed hackers IP in there too. It looks like sometimes he connects with his house internet and then other times maybe through his phone. He clearly does not play from always the same IP - he could also have a dynamic IP address instead of a static one. So I would not take full notice when the OP says something like:

IMO it would also be really random for him to be lying about playing on the 14th and doesnt make to much sense to me

*Needed help taking/posting screenshots
Posted a screenshot of a photograph of a printed email, rather than a screenshot of the email itself
Is ignoring people who are suggesting that looks into his computer to makes sure its "safe"

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It would be great if a timeline could 100% be confirmed (or stated again by the OP), as I have to assume that a support person would have the player's account open in front of him/her and could see the balance right that second

The person and the player who had 25 50 plo dumped at 4 am were not looked at closely enough imo. Security supervisor allegedly told op that there was no evidence of a dump simply outplayed lolz.