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02-28-2010 , 07:38 AM

jasty

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 97

Hi

A few regulars and me noticed that few players who used to play everyday have suddently stopped playing.

In addition, we received account credit because of collusion detected ( more than usualy )

Any reg know what's happening ?

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02-28-2010 , 12:12 PM

wahaha

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i only received $52... can't be all that... there should be plenty more. haha
btw, this is xiandan

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02-28-2010 , 02:00 PM

demetri1978

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wow, post more please if you find out more info .ty

Last edited by demetri1978; 02-28-2010 at 02:06 PM.

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02-28-2010 , 02:47 PM

WaterFall21

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breaking news...

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02-28-2010 , 03:51 PM

d.quang

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D.quang

I have got 208, 104, and a 52 admin credit this month. The 208 is a little awkward imo.

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02-28-2010 , 03:54 PM

jasty

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Have got 108, 104 and 208 credit in 3 days

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02-28-2010 , 04:32 PM

flopp_deuces

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the way they do these refunds is b.s. in my opinion. They should have to say the names of those cheating and the amount that was disbursed to all players. How is anybody stopping them from not refunding the appropriate amounts to ppl. Say they bust 2 ppl for cheating and combined they have 50k that pokerstars confiscates. How is there any way for us to know that they dont disburse half of that and keep the other half for themselves.

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02-28-2010 , 04:53 PM

demetri1978

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Originally Posted by flopp_deuces

so true i agree,is there anyone getting refunds or problems with the $52 turbos

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02-28-2010 , 05:10 PM

$kill Game

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Originally Posted by flopp_deuces

right...do any other sites even give refunds?

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02-28-2010 , 05:22 PM

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nafar

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Originally Posted by $kill Game

right...do any other sites even give refunds?

Yes.

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02-28-2010 , 05:32 PM

#11

Rek

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Originally Posted by flopp_deuces

This is just silly if you think about it. Who apart from Stars will know how much they confiscated anyway. You just have to trust them.

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Originally Posted by $kill Game

right...do any other sites even give refunds?

Of course they do.

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02-28-2010 , 06:12 PM

#12

Simplicity8

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I stopped playing cus I'm bad. Got a bunch of credits too. I can't beat regs/rake/collusion.

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02-28-2010 , 07:41 PM

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jasty

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Pokerstars team is working good to detect colluder and giving us some account credit, and I like that.

Anyway I would like to know what really happens.

February is my worst month in DON for the past 10 month , I tought something was wrong, because the level increased so fast.

And even with the account credit, im still far from winning as much as my usual months.

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02-28-2010 , 08:03 PM

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$kill Game

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Originally Posted by nafar

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Rek

This is just silly if you think about it. Who apart from Stars will know how much they confiscated anyway. You just have to trust them.

Of course they do.

Yea...Even close to the amount that stars does? I highly highly highly doubt it. At least from my experiences.

Pokerstars is the only poker/sports betting site that has a flawless reputation and can be fully trusted with any issues regarding there site imo. Every other site has had shady issues. Pokerstars hasn't. And when they have, they clear it up in impressive fashion. Customer relations/service/protecting their brand name has been their #1 goal, and that is why they are now on top.

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02-28-2010 , 08:15 PM

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phasE89

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I do not know where should I wrote this - I have just seen the most obvious collusion ever on 20.80 don. This is what I emailed to Stars:

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Hello

I was playing a bunch of 20.80 Double or Nothings and noticed a suspicious behaviour of two players "Pay_my_supra" and " skurken88". They are from the same town called "Brumunddal". There are some hands where I found out they are colluding:

PokerStars Game #40478715220: Tournament #247966907, $20.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/03/01 0:39:42 CET [2010/02/28 18:39:42 ET]
Table '247966907 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: lapince69000 (920 in chips)
Seat 2: Ella3 (1795 in chips)
Seat 3: skurken88 (2605 in chips)
Seat 6: phasE89 (2895 in chips)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra (3530 in chips)
Seat 8: eriazoxx (1940 in chips)
Seat 9: darkynel (1315 in chips)
lapince69000: posts the ante 40
Ella3: posts the ante 40
skurken88: posts the ante 40
phasE89: posts the ante 40
Pay_my_supra: posts the ante 40
eriazoxx: posts the ante 40
darkynel: posts the ante 40
lapince69000: posts small blind 200
Ella3: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to phasE89 [Qh 6c]
skurken88: calls 400
phasE89: folds
Pay_my_supra: raises 400 to 800
eriazoxx: folds
darkynel: folds
lapince69000: folds
Ella3: folds
skurken88: raises 1765 to 2565 and is all-in
Pay_my_supra: folds
Uncalled bet (1765) returned to skurken88
skurken88 collected 2480 from pot
skurken88: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2480 | Rake 0
Seat 1: lapince69000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Ella3 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skurken88 collected (2480)
Seat 6: phasE89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra folded before Flop
Seat 8: eriazoxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: darkynel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #40479034353: Tournament #247966907, $20.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2010/03/01 0:46:21 CET [2010/02/28 18:46:21 ET]
Table '247966907 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lapince69000 (2100 in chips)
Seat 2: Ella3 (2050 in chips)
Seat 3: skurken88 (6505 in chips)
Seat 6: phasE89 (445 in chips)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra (1440 in chips)
Seat 8: eriazoxx (2460 in chips)
lapince69000: posts the ante 80
Ella3: posts the ante 80
skurken88: posts the ante 80
phasE89: posts the ante 80
Pay_my_supra: posts the ante 80
eriazoxx: posts the ante 80
Pay_my_supra: posts small blind 400
eriazoxx: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to phasE89 [3d Qc]
lapince69000: folds
Ella3: folds
skurken88: calls 800
phasE89: folds
Pay_my_supra: raises 560 to 1360 and is all-in
eriazoxx: folds
skurken88: folds
Uncalled bet (560) returned to Pay_my_supra
Pay_my_supra collected 2880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2880 | Rake 0
Seat 1: lapince69000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ella3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: skurken88 folded before Flop
Seat 6: phasE89 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra (small blind) collected (2880)
Seat 8: eriazoxx (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #40479087047: Tournament #247966907, $20.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2010/03/01 0:47:27 CET [2010/02/28 18:47:27 ET]
Table '247966907 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: lapince69000 (1140 in chips)
Seat 2: Ella3 (2235 in chips)
Seat 3: skurken88 (5545 in chips)
Seat 6: phasE89 (1620 in chips)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra (3360 in chips)
Seat 8: eriazoxx (1100 in chips)
lapince69000: posts the ante 80
Ella3: posts the ante 80
skurken88: posts the ante 80
phasE89: posts the ante 80
Pay_my_supra: posts the ante 80
eriazoxx: posts the ante 80
lapince69000: posts small blind 400
Ella3: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to phasE89 [5h 3h]
skurken88: raises 800 to 1600
phasE89: folds
Pay_my_supra: raises 1680 to 3280 and is all-in
eriazoxx: folds
lapince69000: folds
Ella3: folds
skurken88: folds
Uncalled bet (1680) returned to Pay_my_supra
Pay_my_supra collected 4880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4880 | Rake 0
Seat 1: lapince69000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Ella3 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skurken88 folded before Flop
Seat 6: phasE89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pay_my_supra collected (4880)
Seat 8: eriazoxx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

It was the most obvious colluding ever! I hope you will go through their HHs and do something.

Please write me back how did you proceed. I hope I will get my money back.

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03-01-2010 , 12:05 AM

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Cat+Cat

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By looking at other $104 reg winning players (not those break even grinders), most of them are doing fine lately.

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03-01-2010 , 08:42 AM

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FilthyRaven

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I agree with pretty much everything Jasty has said in this thread.. Feb has been a disgusting month.. The way it looks on a graph compared to my other months is pretty funny. I have not received any money over any of this though which sucks lol..

Are we saying that these missing players are those from the chinese areas? I thought that was a government thing?

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03-01-2010 , 11:33 AM

#18

LirvA

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Originally Posted by flopp_deuces

At least they eliminate cheaters from the games and give cheated players money back. They could just do nothing.

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03-01-2010 , 11:58 AM

#19

Dire

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Originally Posted by phasE89

I do not know where should I wrote this - I have just seen the most obvious collusion ever on 20.80 don. This is what I emailed to Stars...

Wow, figured this was going to be more blind paranoia but wow, that is 100% positively collusion. Those guys have to be the two biggest idiots on the face of the earth or they think collusion is perfectly fine in poker.. which probably still makes them the two biggest idiots on the face of the earth. Wow.

Just going to say it one more time. Wow.

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03-01-2010 , 12:52 PM

#20

MegaFossil

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I stopped playing b/c I traveled to the LAPT Uruguay, but I shall return soon. The string of 3 admin credits was pretty nice, hopefully a couple of regs were caught.

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03-01-2010 , 12:57 PM

#21

flopp_deuces

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Originally Posted by MegaFossil

I stopped playing b/c I traveled to the LAPT Uruguay, but I shall return soon. The string of 3 admin credits was pretty nice, hopefully a couple of regs were caught.

how did you do over there fossil....any sick beats

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03-01-2010 , 01:05 PM

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MegaFossil

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Originally Posted by flopp_deuces

how did you do over there fossil....any sick beats

Didn't really play a whole lot of poker other than the main event. I did put a sick beat on a fairly short stacked guy as he flopped a set on my KK on a jack-high wet board and I 2 outed him on the turn, and I built my stack from the initial 20k to 50k or so by the 3rd or 4th level, but then I got moved to a table that was amazingly soft, but I kept getting run down. KK v. Q8 on queen hi flop, rivers 2 pair; AJ vs. who knows on J87 flop, river's a 9 that also completes a flush draw and he shoves. UTG raise w/JJ, get a million callers AKT flop. Just hands like that destroyed my stack and I limped into day 2 with 11,400 chips and blinds about to be 500/1000 (100 ante) and busted 60 minutes into Day 2 105th out of 307 with 48 getting paid. Shoved T7 from the button w/9BBs and ran into AQ. Had one fairly comical hand an orbit before where the guy makes it 3500 from the button, I shove 10,400 or so w/KQs from SB and he folds. There was a ton of dead money in the pot.

It was pretty fun though and a nice break from the online poker grind, and I'll probably for sure do more APPT/EPT/LAPTs this year. I think I'm fully refreshed for online and ready for a high volume March.

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03-01-2010 , 01:28 PM

#23

Kajzer Sose

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 850

there is so sick people out there...few days ago at 54$ I caught not 2 but 3 players from Spain playing together...they were stupid so it was obv colluding but cmon-3 players? how stupid is that? head to head one guy played 50 tour total,49 with other guy and rest h2h simular like that...I wasnt affected ,bc I made money in that one when I noticed them but I must report these clowns..after 2 days PS banned them...but still 3 players at 10handed DON,how sick is that?

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03-01-2010 , 01:28 PM

#24

jasty

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by FilthyRaven

Are we saying that these missing players are those from the chinese areas? I thought that was a government thing?

I don't want to give name, because I have no proof but it is very strange that they suddently stop playing when they were earning that much money.

I never noticed collusion between them anyway.

Maybe there IS a new government law and they just cant play anymore ( its coming in june or july in france BTW ... ) but it doesnt explain the admin credit then.