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04-30-2008 , 06:22 AM

pokernut123

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My friends and I visited the LV last summer and found the $1/3NL game at the Wynn to be very profitable.

However an aquaintance recently visited and found it quite tough (and he's a pretty good player).

I guess my question is - has the standard significantly improved? Or is there a similar game somewhere else that's better to play?

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04-30-2008 , 06:45 AM

squints914

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maybe your friend just sucks at poker

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04-30-2008 , 08:21 AM

Photoc

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Originally Posted by pokernut123

I guess my question is - has the standard significantly improved? Or is there a similar game somewhere else that's better to play?

Maybe the players are different from one week to another and that changes a game, just like every other game in the city.

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04-30-2008 , 08:33 AM

DoGGz

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Last time I played the 2/5nl game at the Wynn it was a much tighter game then other casinos. That said, I totally raped the table and won multiple buyins within a few hours.

If you are a typical nitty player who wins the majority of his money from the worst fish, then you should probably play at a different casino. Any strong holdem players who can go beyond ABC should have no problem beating up the game.

Your friend is probably not a 'pretty good player'.

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04-30-2008 , 08:57 AM

Photoc

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Last time I played the 2/5nl game at the Wynn it was a much tighter game then other casinos. That said, I totally raped the table and won multiple buyins within a few hours.

What is considered multiple buy ins on a no cap game?

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04-30-2008 , 09:07 AM

Tigerpiper

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Originally Posted by Photoc

What is considered multiple buy ins on a no cap game?

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04-30-2008 , 09:25 AM

Photoc

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Originally Posted by Tigerpiper

5x what? What is considered a "buy in" for a game with no cap is my question.

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04-30-2008 , 09:41 AM

holmfries

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$300 is a standard buy-in for that game.

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04-30-2008 , 10:05 AM

AKQJ10

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What is considered multiple buy ins on a no cap game?

Buy-ins is just not a good metric in a no-max game. It's not really all that great in any B&M game because the buy-in restrictions change from room to room. I'd just infer 1 BI = 100 BBL and that the person using the term is mostly an online player.

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Originally Posted by holmfries

$300 is a standard buy-in for that game.

$1-3 or $2-5? Seems a little short for the latter stakes but in context that's what's being referred to.

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04-30-2008 , 11:23 AM

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Percula

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Originally Posted by pokernut123

Since low limit NL games in LV are primarily filled with tourists and not locals, any statement of how tough or good a game is worthless unless you are talking in current time, i.e. wow I am playing on table 3 right now and there are two huge fish just giving away their money.

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04-30-2008 , 11:51 AM

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AKQJ10

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Likewise opinion polling must entirely worthless. (I know, I know, make your own joke, but seriously, there is immense value to opinion polling when it's not abused.) Any other statistical analysis based on random sampling must also be worthless, because you might just happen to pick an aberrant sample.

Can't we recognize that generalizations usually hold but occasionally don't?

OP's question was very reasonable -- asking if the reports of tougher games are backed up by more than one observation. Of course his friend may have sat at an aberrantly tough table. That's why he asked the question, ldo.

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04-30-2008 , 12:42 PM

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Matt Flynn

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i sat in this game once waiting for the 5-10 and just quit because they use $3 chips. doesn't any of the floor play? $3 chips should never be used in nl.

Last edited by Matt Flynn; 04-30-2008 at 12:56 PM.

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04-30-2008 , 12:56 PM

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atari2600

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the $3 can be fun to play with. people used to $1 see a $20 stack and assume it's $20, makes a little more money.

But the games at the Wynn are usually much more difficult than in other rooms. I've encountered more local low-limit pro's in that room then anywhere else. I wouldn't play 1/3 there, the 2-5 and 5-10 are fine games, but for 1-3 and 1-2 stakes, there's better action and more fish elsewhere.

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04-30-2008 , 01:01 PM

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DoGGz

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Originally Posted by Photoc

What is considered multiple buy ins on a no cap game?

Considering all my online experience, I just consider 100xbb as a buyin, regardless to how much I normally buy in myself with.

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04-30-2008 , 03:10 PM

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goofyballer

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Originally Posted by Matt Flynn

i sat in this game once waiting for the 5-10 and just quit because they use $3 chips. doesn't any of the floor play? $3 chips should never be used in nl.

I've played the 1/3 a decent amount and like you hated the $3 chips at first, but since they **** with everyone's head I think they're good for the game.

Also, it got easier when I just started mentally keeping track of pot size/previous bets/etc in terms of # of chips rather than $$ value.

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04-30-2008 , 11:20 PM

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elliott44

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Played at the Wynn last week.The game was fairly soft-some locals and some tourists.I actually liked the $3 chips,easier to keep track of how much is in the pot-just count chips and don't worry about converting to dollars.Since red or green don't play, and the dealer usually anounces bets and raises as "bet 4 chips" it's simple to know the pot size.
I also liked the uncapped buy in since I prefer to be the large stack.

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05-01-2008 , 12:00 AM

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icemankazanski

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I love the $3 chips at The Wynn. It is just another thing that confuses poorer players; that and the really hot cocktail waitresses. Anything that wears on a person's concentration will cause them to lose more money.

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05-01-2008 , 06:09 AM

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WorldsBiggestNit

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If you can't beat the $1/3 at the Wynn, no, you are not a pretty good player. But to answer OP, it's usually a pretty good game, from what I hear, although most say that MGM has the best $1/2 in town.

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