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Would you give a player who was dealt out of a qualifying bad beat hand a share of the jackpot? Would you give a player who was dealt out of a qualifying bad beat hand a share of the jackpot?

04-11-2015 , 08:32 PM
Now what happens if a new player comes to the table and is informed of the agreement and doesn't want to go along? I don't know since that never happened while I was at a table.
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04-11-2015 , 08:33 PM
Wait, you were at tables that had the entire table make an agreement about what would happen if they hit the BBJ when they hadn't actually hit it? Were these 1/2 stud tables?
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04-11-2015 , 09:36 PM
I played at a casino where if u had chips at the table u got a share of the bad beat even if you where not even dealt in,
I think ppl "could"abuse it but was more of the factor if ppl just go for smoke or piss break they still get it
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04-11-2015 , 09:48 PM
What about the new player waiting for the BB to come around to play? Obv only in rooms that require posting.
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04-11-2015 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
What about the new player waiting for the BB to come around to play? Obv only in rooms that require posting.
Not just rooms that require posting. My room doesn't require posting in most games .... but lots of nits will wait to come in behind the button to maximize their free hands. We don't have a jackpot so its not an issue for them.


BTW i was playing in a room once after they changed the policy from you had to be dealt in to get a table share to you justr couldn't have a missed blind. The floor told me the reason they changed the rule was that they were having a problem with players pissing themselves rather than getting up to go to the bathroom when the jackpot was high.
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04-11-2015 , 10:23 PM
BigBlue56 I don't know what would have happened if as you say someone new at the table wanted to wait for his blind. The issue never came up. True I can see where it could cause major problems, but how that issue would be resolved I don't know. Some of these people that play poker here would literally piss themselves rather than take a chance on missing the BBJ. I guess they are so worried that they missed the BBJ when they finally leave the casino that they get an ulser.
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04-11-2015 , 10:27 PM
IF its someone who ran to the bathroom I prob would. I hate people who go to dinner for an hour and just leave their chips sitting there and force the game to be like 6 handed so I prob wouldn't tip dinner break guy.
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04-11-2015 , 10:56 PM
**** no.
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04-12-2015 , 05:31 AM
My local casino also has the "missed blind' rule. I wait till I'm MP to leave the table now.
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04-12-2015 , 05:35 AM
would hook em up with some. if he didn't sit out, the jackpot wouldn't happen.
ive seen this maybe 2 times, its unlucky. players at the table should hook him up, and tip the dealer.
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04-12-2015 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grinder7
would hook em up with some. if he didn't sit out, the jackpot wouldn't happen.
ive seen this maybe 2 times, its unlucky. players at the table should hook him up, and tip the dealer.
hahahhaha
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04-12-2015 , 08:17 AM
The rule you haven't missed a blind looks good to me. Technically, you could be dealt in all the way from button to under the gun, and just have the cards folded while away. It's not until you miss a blind you really are sitting out, imo.
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04-12-2015 , 09:25 AM
The way I look at it, the guy owes the table $86,000 if he steps away and the BBJ doesn't hit while he's gone, because it probably would have hit if he'd been there.

And when players start ponying up the missed bbj funds to the others who stay at the table, maybe then it will make sense to give a share to the guy who actually misses it being hit while he's away.
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04-12-2015 , 09:30 AM
I'd treat the guy to a shrimp cocktail.
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04-12-2015 , 09:43 AM
Ultimately, I think it's reasonable to have the time to go for a pee (because pee bottles are not allowed in a live setting, as online ). Even if you are a bit old, and need more time, wandering away when on the button should be a sacrifice big enough for letting you stay in the BBJ.

With these criteria I'm paying in the case OP presented.
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04-12-2015 , 11:25 AM
Absolutely not.

I Do agree the rule should be 1 orbit.

Poker is a game of competition and if someone messes up I am not going to pay for it.

So when a guy shows and folds a flush draw and it hits, you owe him some money, because you wouldn't have won the pot if he hadn't folded?

Getting harassed about it is part of standing your ground.
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04-12-2015 , 11:28 AM
I think people who say they would pay are making a mistake. You letting others freeroll you because you have no basis to expect them to pay you if you are the one walking. If its important to you ask the other players to agree AHEAD OF TIME so that they aren't freerolling you.
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04-12-2015 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckethead22
would love to hear some #hottakes
Our resident Hot Takes Man™ is DrawNone who definitely name searches so look forward to some scorching takes.
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04-12-2015 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by leo doc
I'd treat the guy to a shrimp cocktail.


For those that don't know, a leo doc shrimp cocktail comes w/ 20 shrimp!
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04-12-2015 , 06:39 PM
Giving someone money for free? Nope.
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04-13-2015 , 02:51 AM
im not ballng by any means but holy **** i understand not wanting to give into the butterfly effect but jesus christ i get not giving him a table share but god damn give the player who made it possible the bad beat cards were hit at least a 100$ each seriously. if u dont wanna split a table share completely understandable but if your that much of a pos that you cant see him leaving played some part in it getting dealt and you cant give him 100$ each i hope you crash n die on your way home from the casino
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04-13-2015 , 04:04 AM
Eh, this might be a little room dependent. The BBJ at Casino Arizona is one of the easiest to hit and it hits all the time, rarely gets huge unless they do an add-on promo: Aces full of Tens or better beaten by quads. Usually hits when someone has Ace-Face, somebody has Tens+, board runs out A-A-A other 2 smaller than the kicker. W/ the split at 50/25/rest of players share equally the player's share is usually not very big, say in the $350 to $500 range normally.

So nobody is going to tip a hundo and the culture in the room is not to toss the player that missed out anything. As I said it happened to me twice and under aggravating circumstances: A couple of minutes late bec I'm old and it takes a long time to pee.
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04-13-2015 , 04:24 AM
I know several people that would never pay out to anyone that wasn't there when it was hit and shut down the "If I was there it woudln't have happened" argument while they would try to convince people to pay him for not being there under the "If I was there it wouldn't have happened" if he was away from the table.
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04-13-2015 , 06:57 AM
Like all things in poker, and it was mentioned earlier .. please apply 'it depends' to all situations.

I once paid a guy a green chip ($25) because I won a $750 high hand the very next hand (on that deck) when he got up.

I am surprised this hasn't morphed into 'paying the bubble' in low stakes tournaments conversation here!!

Unfortunately I do think it comes down to 'likeability' of the player in question and how long they have been gone. Obviously the next hand (on that deck) it really should be a no brainer to do something for the missing player, whether it be just a drink or chip(s).

Hitting a BBJ should be a celebration. I saw a Facebook post of BBJ winners and they looked like they were at a funeral. I later found out that the BBJ had been hit twice in the previous 2 weeks and they 'only' got to share $8600 whereas the first one went down for $98,500 ... so sorry!!

I would lean towards doing something regardless of the 'table' decision.

Now on to that paying of the bubble ... GL
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04-13-2015 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
What about the new player waiting for the BB to come around to play? Obv only in rooms that require posting.
My room requires new players to post. If you are a new player and opt to wait to post as the big blind then you are ineligible if the BB hits before you post. Also, having a missed blind button - small or big - makes you ineligible as well.
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