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05-12-2024 , 08:06 PM

deuceblocker

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 3,500

I 3! an ep raise next to act. The original raiser said "you are not concerned about all those people to act."

I replied "I am isolating versus the fish."

Technically, I think we were both violating the rules. Should I just stay silent or say I can't discuss the hand with players to act?

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05-12-2024 , 08:52 PM

dinesh

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,431

I usually say “free lessons are only on Wednesdays”.

But if the jokey tone isn’t right for the table I’ll instead say I can’t discuss the hand while it’s multiway.

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05-13-2024 , 06:47 AM

venice10

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 25,876

It sounds like table talk to me. I'd prefer to say, "I hoping the rest of them will call, then you 4 bet all in."

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05-13-2024 , 08:11 AM

answer20

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,925

Certainly more of a Reg heavy home game statement .. but if the table dynamic allows for it, then it's just banter. 'It depends' definitely applies, but with a definite lean that this may be taking it a little too far.

So do you speak up? What does it say if you're not in the hand or still remain in the hand if you do speak up? Does it affect the hand? Yes, and it's up to the Players (and of course the Dealer upholding the Room tone) to decide if things have gone too far.

If these two Players are the action or have been battling during the session, then you'd probably lean towards letting them go. GL

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05-13-2024 , 12:59 PM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,483

You're usually not allowed to talk about a hand in progress, even though the statement is borderline and some rooms have that rule even when it's heads up. It sounds like the original raiser has aces though when he makes that comment.

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05-13-2024 , 03:36 PM

Mr Rick

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,147

When you make a joke that funny it won't be ruled as cheating.

When you 3-bet pre-flop it is isolating. So no news there. Not sure what kind of tell Villain was trying to elicit here.

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05-13-2024 , 03:49 PM

pwnsall

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 65,680

I'll allow it

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05-13-2024 , 06:04 PM

checkraisdraw

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 2,918

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

“No coaching” is an LA staple response to bullshit like this. Portrays comfort, gets the message across, doesn’t give away the strength of your hand…

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05-15-2024 , 11:09 PM

franklymydearirais

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Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 245

"I'd say something, but discussion of the hand while multiway is strictly prohibited." Then smile.

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05-17-2024 , 12:31 PM

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Mason Malmuth

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Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 13,038

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

You may have just gained some information about your opponent's hand. If he says this in a relaxed manner, he's probably trying to draw your attention away from his hand and probably has a very strong hand.

See Zachary Elwood's book Verbal Poker Tells.

Mason

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05-20-2024 , 04:55 PM

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Fore

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 3,805

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

I'll allow it

Please don't. The initial and second comment were both over the line multi way even if not far over. The issue is the next comment is not going to be just a little over the line. Players who know better might be okay but those who don't (probably a newbie rec) won't know and will wind up WAY over the line. And won't understand why they are 'in trouble'.

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