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What job to get and where? What job to get and where?

05-26-2014 , 01:09 PM
How would one go about this?

I've checked all the websites for local casino's, none of them seem to be specifically looking for dealers.

Would the job include hosting some or all of the other games available at the casino too? Would it include other things like cleaning, ... ?

There's a bunch of things I could do. I could just send a e-mail with a spontaneous application, I could give them a call, or I could just ask a floor when I'm there playing?

What about finding a job in Vegas and moving there? It's a stretch, but I'd probably do it if I could!

Any tips or advice?
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05-26-2014 , 02:04 PM
Do you know how to deal?
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05-26-2014 , 02:52 PM
If you are an EU citizen, coming to the US to work as a dealer is going to be nearly impossible. There are lots of unemployed dealers in the US, so no casino is going to sponsor your visa. I know there are lots of reports of illegal aliens working in the US, but they tend to be in minimally regulated industries. Gambling is a highly regulated industry.

The best piece of information I've seen given in a similar threads is to talk to the room manager of where you play. They'll let you know what they want to see in an applicant's CV and the skills demonstrated during a try out. Then be outstanding in those areas.
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05-26-2014 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
Do you know how to deal?
Wouldn't say I'm a good dealer, but I'm not bad at it, would need to improve.
I've dealt a few final tables at small tournaments. And regularly deal hands while playing those tournaments too.
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05-26-2014 , 04:25 PM
Call them up. Ask. Network.

If it's anything like the US job market, good luck. It's super-saturated on this side of the pond. I don't recommend it.
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05-29-2014 , 12:37 AM
A few years ago I looked into dealing in Southern California but heard from multiple sources that even after completing a $900 poker training course, you can expect a 1 in a 100 shot of landing a full time dealing gig at a local casino.

Bottom line though, no one ever got a job dealing that didn't apply for it. So you never know. If you enjoy dealing, try to make something happen. Good luck.
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05-29-2014 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sponger
Bottom line though, no one ever got a job dealing that didn't apply for it.
I dunno. I worked with a guy who got a job dealing because he played in a home game with the room manager. He didn't even have any experience or training.
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05-29-2014 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pfapfap
I dunno. I worked with a guy who got a job dealing because he played in a home game with the room manager. He didn't even have any experience or training.
OK so maybe I worded that wrong. How about applied themselves. I doubt many respectable poker rooms would hire someone who has absolutely no experience or training. Then again I have been away from the scene for a few years now so maybe the landscape has changed.
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05-29-2014 , 07:14 AM
I've just ended my studies (notice how I wrote ended instead of finished) and now I basically got nothing to show for.
I live in Belgium, so even without a job I can afford to live and even set aside a little money to play poker. I have no debts from my study and I've got some money set aside, not too much.

My last 4-5 months have been all about poker, I got a small peek at the "gambling" world and really love it.
I've never been a good student and not being very motivated to continue my study didn't really help either, so I obviously failed. (Just got the results, kinda depressed while writing this. Don't pay too much attention to it.)

I would love to move somewhere where they speak English, preferably somewhere in the USA, Vegas has a really nice ring to it, but I really don't have enough background information to make the decision at the moment.
I'd like a place where it's not too expensive to live and where I can easily find a job doing whatever.
I'd also like somewhere warm, not too much rain, ... guess that's another reason Vegas sounds good.
And obviously somewhere I can play live poker, don't really care for online poker.

I'd need a job that will allow me to play live poker whenever I'm off, during a free evening, during a day off, ...
I don't mind working in shifts or at night, I'll even settle for a 9-5 or a half time job if that'll make me enough money to survive and play some poker.
That said, I don't really know what kind of job would go good with a starting poker career. I've worked at a highway restaurant, cleaning tables, doing dishes, ... and kinda like that job. Definitely wouldn't want to do it the rest of my live, but I could see myself doing that for a few years until I figure things out. I've also worked at a pizza delivery, helping out in the kitchen and riding the moped thingies to deliver the pizza's. Like that job too, but same thing, wouldn't want to do that for the rest of my life.
I wouldn't mind cleaning or some heavier work (although I'm a small guy and not very strong).
The only thing I just cannot do for more than an hour is routine work, not sure how to describe it in English. Standing in the same spot, doing the same thing over and over again, I just can't and won't do that ...

I'm a young man from Belgium, I speak fluent Dutch and my English is pretty decent, I also speak a little French, if that helps at all.
I'm currently 25, but I look more like 18, so I guess that works to my advantage in these kind of jobs?

If anyone has any advice for me or any good suggestions please let me know!
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05-29-2014 , 07:20 AM
Very much doubt you'll be able to emigrate to the USA to do entry level jobs and play poker.

London maybe your best bet given that you're a EU resident with regards English speaking, jobs and poker, but not cheap at all.
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05-29-2014 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
Very much doubt you'll be able to emigrate to the USA to do entry level jobs and play poker.

London maybe your best bet given that you're a EU resident with regards English speaking, jobs and poker, but not cheap at all.
Why would it be hard to emigrate from Europe to the USA? Don't really understand that? Especially if I'll have a job there?
Belgium is one of the richest countries in Europe and has one of the best educations?
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05-29-2014 , 08:06 AM
Because it's hard to get a visa if you don't already have a job lined up, and it's hard to get a job if you don't already have a visa.
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05-29-2014 , 08:11 AM
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Why would it be hard to emigrate from Europe to the USA? Don't really understand that? Especially if I'll have a job there?
Belgium is one of the richest countries in Europe and has one of the best educations?
I suggest googling 'emigrating from Europe to the USA'. Here's a quick snippet.
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Because so many people want to emigrate to the United States the process is notoriously difficult and the waiting period very long. For those with an American spouse or family member the process is not difficult. There are also many annual visas awarded to people with special skills and work experience in certain fields that have a shortage of labour. The US uses a point system to categorise long-term visa applicants based on a number of factors including level of education, nationality and work experience. But for the average person with no desirable skills, family connections or considerable cash to invest in America it will be a long and frustrating process to get a permanent resident visa.
You have no special skills or work experience, from what you've said here. Also the fact that you haven't researched this basic first step doesn't speak well for your initiative or preparation.
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05-29-2014 , 08:11 AM
Yeah was just reading up on it ... Seems like a though situation ...
So how would I get around it?
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05-29-2014 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Yeah was just reading up on it ... Seems like a though situation ...
So how would I get around it?
Spend 5-10 years developing some in demand skills. Alternately, realise that emigrating to the USA is unlikely to be an option for you.
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05-29-2014 , 08:21 AM
Great ...
So what other options are there? London has like the worst weather in the world so not really a good option for me.
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05-29-2014 , 08:28 AM
Australia? I know nothing about the rules but it's an idea. A girl I know moved there from the usa to basically babysit all the time (like lived with the family) and had a decent amount of free time to do what she wanted.

You'd probably want to find a different job though. I'm pretty sure they only hire chicks for that gig.

Last edited by Villian1; 05-29-2014 at 08:35 AM.
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05-29-2014 , 08:28 AM
So you want somewhere English speaking with relaxed immigration laws, live poker and nice weather?

Can I ask you a slightly tangentual question? Are you currently a winning live poker player?
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05-29-2014 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Villian1
Australia? I know nothing about the rules.
Not much looser afaik. I think they have some kind of 'temporary working' visa that allows you to work there for up to a year, max.
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05-29-2014 , 08:35 AM
Yeah, she was probably there about a year or so.
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05-29-2014 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
So you want somewhere English speaking with relaxed immigration laws, live poker and nice weather?

Can I ask you a slightly tangentual question? Are you currently a winning live poker player?
Well, obviously the live poker is the most important factor, I'd say weather comes second and English speaking third.

As to the other question, short answer, no.
I would be if I had a bankroll though. That's why I need a job first. If things don't go well I can always move back home and find something else, but let's assume that won't happen for now?
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05-29-2014 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
...As to the other question, short answer, no.
I would be if I had a bankroll though.
This seems unlikely.
Suggest you "finish" (as opposed to "end") your education before you commit yourself otherwise.
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05-29-2014 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ88
This seems unlikely.
Suggest you "finish" (as opposed to "end") your education before you commit yourself otherwise.
I was going to ask people not to post these comments, guess I should have.
I can't finish my education, I'm no longer allowed to continue it.
It's also a system that doesn't work for me. Let's leave it at that.

I'm just a guy looking for a job, who also plays poker. I never said I'd like to make poker my job, though I would like that, but I'm nowhere near where I should be to think that's even an option at the moment.
I'd just like to be a part of the gambling world whether it's as a "gambler" or an employee.
I'd definitely like to move somewhere else, Belgium is wet and cold and there's not even that much poker going on.
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05-29-2014 , 10:03 AM
I think given what you've said, poker should be way down your list of priorities if you're looking to move and work elsewhere.
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05-29-2014 , 10:43 AM
Your best options right now are retail, fast food, or day labour.

You will not get work in Vegas or California. I'm sorry, but there are simply far too many people looking for the easy life same as you, and they already have skills dealing and are already cleared to live and work in the US. You're ten years too late.

You can work for the WSOP next summer. Applications start in February or so. They do online applications for people overseas, not sure how it works tho. But after WSOP, you won't be able to get a job anywhere, at least not doing poker.

As the old saying goes: poker is a hard way to make an easy living. If it were so simple to do with only a few months' experience and a part-time job on the side, then everybody would do it.
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