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10-09-2009 , 04:17 PM

#26

Malucci

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 13,012

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Originally Posted by gongshow

This is just lol ridiculously wrong.

I understand that mistakes happen, but making an excuse for a mistake by saying "the dealers hourly salary is less than a min bet" is atrocious.

I can't think of any other job that requires no education, requires you to work indoors only, and you are able to make 60-80k/year. Hundreds of hands a day or not, when your job is to read tabled cards in correlation with the board, despite verbal declarations, you should be able to do so.

No dealers are making 60-80K per year. If there are any, it might be 1/19 of a percent. So I would say that this is "just lol ridiculously wrong".

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10-09-2009 , 04:56 PM

#27

DefiniteMaybe

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 565

I'm pretty sure it's the dealer's job to determine the winning hand, kill the hand, and ship the pot. Dealer error, IMO.

That said, you have no one to blame but yourself.

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10-09-2009 , 05:29 PM

#28

Cbarton

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,304

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Originally Posted by Poker_Sux

I check, villian bets, and after a few seconds, I call, and i turn over my straight and say a pair of 8's, and she tables pocket queens and I say NH immediately....

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Clearly you state you are tired and that is when stuff happens.

She bet and you called. Let her turn over her hand first.

The if you are tired, table you hand and say I am tired, do I have a straight or a pair of eights, asking for help.

It is smarter than calling and showing first and then conceding the pot.

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10-09-2009 , 07:44 PM

#29

Poker_Sux

banned

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 114

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Originally Posted by venice10

Dealer mistake after you read your hand wrong. Table mistake for no one pointing out immediately that you had a straight. Your mistake in announcing your hand incorrectly.

However costly this mistake was, if you can't read your hand correctly, you were probably playing poorly enough to cost you more than that over the previous 3 hours. Let this hand stick in your mind the next time you are thinking to play longer than you should.

I am not nitpicking about whether I should have gotten the whole pot, none of the pot, or half of it.

I was more then happy to give her half the pot, since I was a ****** and didn't read my hand correctly, and actually probably would have given her half anyway even if the video evidence came within a few minutes of requesting it.

I was just curious about the situation, I didn't decide to post this thread 3 days after the fact because I was still stinging from a lost 140 dollars, because of my stupid mistake. I was reading some B&M threads bored, and decided to post my issue randomly. I didn't speed home from the cardroom and log onto 2+2 immediately.

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10-09-2009 , 07:47 PM

#30

Poker_Sux

banned

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 114

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Originally Posted by Cbarton

Ironically had I done this, I would have lost the entire pot with no evidence. Once I saw her queens, I would have quietly mucked.

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10-09-2009 , 07:58 PM

#31

Cbarton

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,304

Poker, I said table your hand and get help reading it when you are tired.

You win the hand that way.

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10-09-2009 , 11:53 PM

#32

venice10

Referee

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 26,103

Poker_Sux, I think you misunderstood me. This should sting you. Don't play your "C" game at the tables. There's probably lots of other bets you screwed up because you were tired. Sometimes, this is the reminder that prevents you from leaking more money another time.

Yes, you should have won the pot, but it is your responsibility to make sure it happens.

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10-10-2009 , 02:08 AM

#33

Shentx

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 188

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Originally Posted by Al_Capone_Junior

If there's any loss of dignity, it's not worth it.

And even if you felt a little indignant about the whole situation...

Dignity grows back.
al

So it's not worth losing some dignity even though it grows back?

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10-10-2009 , 07:08 AM

#34

dgiharris

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,292

Gotta throw the flag on them taking almost an hour to review tape.

Should take 20 minutes tops IMO.

As for fault. I say 50% player 50% dealer

since it was a player initiated error.

But sounds like it was just a friendly $140 lesson/reminder to not play while that freaking tired

Better a $140 lesson than a $1,400 lesson.

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10-10-2009 , 08:27 AM

#35

Al_Capone_Junior

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Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,977

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Originally Posted by Shentx

So it's not worth losing some dignity even though it grows back?

LOL that was a little vague of me.

If you know in advance you're going to lose dignity, it's not worth it.

But if you lose some, the good news is that it does grow back.

Better?