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Tournament Hand: player says "always," opponent thinks he said "all in." Tournament Hand: player says "always," opponent thinks he said "all in."

10-24-2010 , 08:24 PM
Just wondering about a hand at my table today in a tourney I played in as if there should have been any ruling or what the correct action was.

Player UTG+1 raises 4x(600) preflop. Player in HJ Re-raises to 10x(1500). Folds around to original raiser who mutters under his breath but audible for the table "always". The player in HJ thought UTG+1 said "All In" and calls immediately flipping over TT.
UTG+1 says he hadn't acted yet and it was confirmed by another player that he said "always" and not "all in". After a minute or two of thinking, he showed AQ and folded.
The pit wasn't called and the player left his cards exposed but pulled the all in chips back (leaving his original 3bet in).
What should be the ruling if UTG+1 just decides to call and not move all in? Obviously if he wants to move all in the action goes back to HJ who will have an option. But is an exposed hand still live if it's just called preflop?
This is all theoretical because the player folded but I was wondering if the TD should have been called or if was handled in proper manner?

FWIW
$275+25 BI
No Rebuys
220 Players
Blinds 75/150

Hopefully I haven't left out any details. Just interested on peoples thoughts on this. There was no angle shoot, just communication error. It sounded to me like the player said "all in" but with his body language and what appeared to be legit confusion along with the player beside him vouching that he didn't say "all in", it seemed like it was an honest mistake.
Nobody at the table complained or anything and everyone just let it play out.
Thoughts?
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10-24-2010 , 08:53 PM
Three cheers for snap calling and flipping your hand before you are even 50% sure of the action.

Back up the action.
UTG+1 has all his options.
HJ's hand not dead. I would not levy a penalty, but if the TD is a zero tolerance type, he might get one.

If UTG+1 decides to raise, not sure if HJ is bound by his "out of turn action", but I would rule he is.
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10-24-2010 , 09:09 PM
wait for the dealer to confirm the action
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10-24-2010 , 09:33 PM
Chips stacks could factor into the decisions.

Back up the acton to UTG +1. He can now close the action by calling.

He's about 2:1 to pair up on the flop and getting about 2.5:1 to call. Calling is a no brainer.

Possible penalty for HJ for exposing his hand. Penalty is enforced by having player sit out a set number of future hands.
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10-24-2010 , 10:12 PM
in before someone says KITN.
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10-24-2010 , 10:55 PM
utg+1 should call and jam any flop.
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10-24-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by djkelly69
utg+1 should call and jam any flop.
... provided there's at least one card higher than a ten (and no set or straight for the TT).
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10-25-2010 , 12:23 AM
So if UTG+1 just calls here, he is still allowed to play against an exposed hand?
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10-25-2010 , 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrifter22
So if UTG+1 just calls here, he is still allowed to play against an exposed hand?
Of course.
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10-25-2010 , 12:38 AM
Cool. Appreciate that being cleared up as I haven't come across this situation before in a tournament. I've seen cards flipped over prematurely before but it's usually to call an All In. Although I don't play much B&M Tourneys.
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