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12-27-2019 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
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Chatting about this at the tables a couple nights ago. Player says only players who were dealt cards get table shares, dealer says it's no missing blinds buttons. Not resolved.

I'm on my way back from bathroom to see my table celebrating. I left in mp and have no buttons, but stressed. Poker manager says I'm good. Wheeeee.

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Friendly table, but dealer got stiffed by big winner, winner of hand gives 4%, and table share players gave 6%, 4%, 4%, $5, $0.09 and one had his tip allegedly refused.

How many of those are going to give another player anything??? I think my decision would be based on the player who missed blinds and what others did. A guy who only missed that blind and the rest ate chipping in, sure I'll chip in. The guy who walks all night gets the gas face.
[Can a mod fork this into the Tipping thread]

1. If the big winner "stiffed" the dealer, so did everyone else except maybe one person. The big winner gave 4% which is same or more % than anyone else. Just because he won more $'s, why should he give a higher %? But honestly, what he did on did not give is his own darn business and you should not know, ask or be told IMO.

2. How why does someone give 9 cents?

3. How why is a tip refused or returned?
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12-27-2019 , 03:39 PM
Fore, I think he is saying the loser of the bad beat gave $0 and the winner of the hand gave 4%.

bigblue, how do you know what everyone else gave?
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12-28-2019 , 12:02 AM
Found it. Sorry for the wrong thread, I should have known better.

Yes. Loser of the hand, winner of 50%of BBJ was escorted/left the table first to cash out. Did not tip prior to leaving. Did not return when I was there, was not at cage when my group went up last. No, I don’t know if he didn’t discretely tip and the dealer didn’t share that info. Other dealer was talking about it the next night, I talked to her privately to be clear about what she said. Also reported that the same player hadn’t tipped for a few days on regular pots. While I usually notice such things, I didn’t notice him tipping or not after winning pots.

Winner of the hand and 25% of bbj was a well known reg. Seemed very friendly with all staff including dealers from another nearby casino, possibly married to one. His share was reported to me in that same conversation.

Table share was $xxxx.09 and player would likely have had to return from the cashier to tip that amount. Sends a message for sure, but not the intended one. I did not see that tip given.

Guy at the table for less than an hour reported it to me at cashier window. No explanation given. Said he tried to tip and dealer refused. Didn’t ask amount or details. Didn’t see if offered or refused.

I know what I gave, and that another player asked me and gave the same. As I go back over the numbers. I was wrong in the percent given to that dealer. Explanation provided upon request, but I mDe at least a couple errors.




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12-28-2019 , 12:43 AM
I need to learn how to tip 9 cents
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12-28-2019 , 01:14 AM
Big winner stiffed the dealer, one guy tips him 9 cents, nobody else at the table steps in to make up for it, sounds like the dealer may have done something to piss his/her customers off. (Lazy, slow, bad attitude, ungrateful, bad at their job, could be a number of things)
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12-28-2019 , 02:59 AM
Why is the tip amount being discussed by casino employees and why is it any of your business?
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12-28-2019 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
Big winner stiffed the dealer, one guy tips him 9 cents, nobody else at the table steps in to make up for it, sounds like the dealer may have done something to piss his/her customers off. (Lazy, slow, bad attitude, ungrateful, bad at their job, could be a number of things)
I don't think this was a 'normal' situation. Room closes each night, and this happened less than an hour before closing. It was well over an hour before people started being escorted to the cashier. There were no more players in the area, the other dealers were no longer at their tables.

It's possible that players planned to tip the other dealers that were there. I planned to do so, ended up just being generous with the tips the next day because the rest of the staff was already gone.


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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Why is the tip amount being discussed by casino employees and why is it any of your business?
One dealer was asked by a player about it when she was coming in to deal. I have always been curious about the amounts that people say they are going to tip, the amounts they actually tip and what gets reported out. Not all of it is my business. Does knowing that the information gets out influence the amounts that players tip?

FWIW - My post here was part of my reply in another thread, regarding if the players would 'tip' out another player who had a missed blind button and was excluded.
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12-28-2019 , 01:02 PM
The dealer that was asked about the tip amount should have replied that any tip amount is private between the dealer and the player.
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12-28-2019 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
The dealer that was asked about the tip amount should have replied that any tip amount is private between the dealer and the player.
Strongly agree!! My hearing anything else from a dealer would be very EV——- from me. And a room where the set up clearly allows other players to witness my tipping will first hear about it t from me. Second I will actively try to circumvent that system to protect my privacy.
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12-28-2019 , 03:53 PM
heard dealer complain last night that he only got 1 percent of a bad beat jackpot he dealt from the table combined.
the bbj paid out almost 300k.
so 3,000 dollars isn't enough for pushing out pieces of waxed cardboard and having an hour or two off of dealing while the bbj is verified.
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12-28-2019 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
[Brag]

Chatting about this at the tables a couple nights ago. Player says only players who were dealt cards get table shares, dealer says it's no missing blinds buttons. Not resolved.

I'm on my way back from bathroom to see my table celebrating. I left in mp and have no buttons, but stressed. Poker manager says I'm good. Wheeeee.

[/Brag]

Friendly table, but dealer got stiffed by big winner, winner of hand gives 4%, and table share players gave 6%, 4%, 4%, $5, $0.09 and one had his tip allegedly refused.

How many of those are going to give another player anything??? I think my decision would be based on the player who missed blinds and what others did. A guy who only missed that blind and the rest ate chipping in, sure I'll chip in. The guy who walks all night gets the gas face.
9 cents guy is obviously a jerk.
The big shares stiffed the dealer but do we know why? Nowhere in any of these posts is the quality of the dealer ever mentioned.

I almost never played hold em but if I hit a bbj and the dealer is trash I'd sleep like a baby giving him nothing or a tiny tip. And there are a lot of good dealers I'd tip very well.

I'm giving other players exactly 0 dollars if they aren't at the table.

Should i give someone a bill when they go to the bathroom and while they're gone the jackpot doesn't hit?
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12-28-2019 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
The dealer that was asked about the tip amount should have replied that any tip amount is private between the dealer and the player.
Which is BS

Unless you think the dealer doesn't tell the other dealers how much George and Bill and Mary each tipped.
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12-28-2019 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
heard dealer complain last night that he only got 1 percent of a bad beat jackpot he dealt from the table combined.
the bbj paid out almost 300k.
so 3,000 dollars isn't enough for pushing out pieces of waxed cardboard and having an hour or two off of dealing while the bbj is verified.
Ya some dealers are ungrateful idiots. Give me 3k all day.
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12-28-2019 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
heard dealer complain last night that he only got 1 percent of a bad beat jackpot he dealt from the table combined.
the bbj paid out almost 300k.
so 3,000 dollars isn't enough for pushing out pieces of waxed cardboard and having an hour or two off of dealing while the bbj is verified.
Hard to believe the player didn't personally go to the dealer's bank and pay off his mortgage, it's really the least he should have done.

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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Which is BS

Unless you think the dealer doesn't tell the other dealers how much George and Bill and Mary each tipped.

Gossiping about customers between staff is different from staff gossiping about customers to customers.
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12-28-2019 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer


Gossiping about customers between staff is different from staff gossiping about customers to customers.
If you are going to be gossiping about something to someone, don't tell me it is private.
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12-28-2019 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
If you are going to be gossiping about something to someone, don't tell me it is private.
I'm not a dealer, but if a customer A asks me for personal information about customer B, I'm 100% not going to discuss it with them. I may well use the word 'privacy' in my reply. However my colleagues may hear about customer B if they amused or irritated me. You can argue that a truly professional person never talks about anyone else and that's fair enough but there's a clear ethical distinction between 'in house' and to the general public.
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12-28-2019 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
I'm not a dealer, but if a customer A asks me for personal information about customer B, I'm 100% not going to discuss it with them. I may well use the word 'privacy' in my reply. However my colleagues may hear about customer B if they amused or irritated me. You can argue that a truly professional person never talks about anyone else and that's fair enough but there's a clear ethical distinction between 'in house' and to the general public.
Agreed, but not everyone shares our code of ethics.
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12-28-2019 , 05:54 PM
weird they paid the losing hand 1st

when I was involved in a table share we all got pd 1st then the winning hand and last the 50% losing hand

when I hit with the winning hand same sequence in a different room
BTW the 50% in that payout tipped $5.00 (1 redbird)

I tipped 3% on both occasions but today I think that was too much and if I hit another would tip less
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12-29-2019 , 01:36 AM
How much is the average tip on a promotion win. For example if quads pays $100 or a straight flush pays $500 is it usually 10%, 5% ? Last night at Planet Hollywood a guy at my table won 5k from a promo for getting a royal flush. He only tipped $100. I felt this was low as it’s only 2%
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12-29-2019 , 02:19 AM
seems super generous to me
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12-29-2019 , 02:30 AM
I would probably give a green chip or two there and feel perfectly fine with it.
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12-29-2019 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
I felt this was low
it's not
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12-29-2019 , 02:52 AM
I'm down close to $20k lifetime in the BBJ promotion (been playing for over a decade, never hit anything other than a few roomshares).

If i win a $10k jackpot someday now i either get to tip $1k for the honor of only being down $10k lifetime in this stupid promotion or get bitched at by some dealer because i didn't pay their mortgage that month.
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12-29-2019 , 03:12 AM
1k is very generous. I would do something closer to 500.
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12-29-2019 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
How much is the average tip on a promotion win. For example if quads pays $100 or a straight flush pays $500 is it usually 10%, 5% ? Last night at Planet Hollywood a guy at my table won 5k from a promo for getting a royal flush. He only tipped $100. I felt this was low as it’s only 2%
Let me preface my answer by saying that anyone can tip as much or as little as they want. Their money. they can spend or share it any legal way or hey want.

Now consider this. A room that plays cash nine max. BBJP is a 50:25 split and balance to the table. It hits full handed. How much is a table share? Obviously it is about 3.6%.

You mentioned 5 or 10%. If 5% were the customary tip the dealer is making almost 1.5x a table share. If just the two big winners tip that much the dealer still makes more than a table share.

This is not the exact question you asked but a BBJP is another promo. Also don’t forget the promo fund is normally all funded by the players money. Really just getting back your own money.
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