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08-12-2014 , 09:19 AM

#4826

rakeme

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Originally Posted by Rapini

Better than a 1 I suppose, thanks for your response.

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08-12-2014 , 09:41 AM

#4827

AngusThermopyle

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Originally Posted by rakeme

Better than a 1 I suppose, thanks for your response.

If 70% of your pots are under $100 AND a 10 on your scale is 10 for a "fair tipper", then most would consider you a 2-3.

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08-12-2014 , 09:58 AM

#4828

rakeme

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How about $1 for every pot over $50? Would dealers be fine with that? Even that seems like a heavy tip though, let's say 3 players see the flop for $16, I only net $34 - $5 rake = $29, then another $1 for the tip, that adds up big time in the long run.

I'm thinking between the options of tipping on $100 pots or greater and not tipping at all, not tipping at all might make more sense since dealers/players at the table already view me as cheap anyway. There's no real benefit to tipping if it's not going to be appreciated by the dealer for how often I tip him.

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08-12-2014 , 10:04 AM

#4829

LowSociety

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Originally Posted by rakeme

I tip $1 for any pot over $100. Rate my tipping on a scale of 1-10, 1 being cheapskate and 10 being a fair tipper. *I occasionally tip $2 on a huge all in pot ($400 pot or bigger).

5-10NL? 4/10
2-5NL? 3/10
1-2NL? 2/10
local games? uninvited/10

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08-12-2014 , 10:18 AM

#4830

rakeme

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Sorry if I'm coming off as ignorant on the subject, I'm just trying to get a baseline because I don't play live all that often and may be playing more in the future.

So, basically, if you're not tipping at least $1 per every pot won you'll be viewed as cheap by the dealer/players at the table?

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08-12-2014 , 10:29 AM

#4831

Rapini

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Originally Posted by rakeme

If you stiff when you just steal the blinds or the pot is less than maybe $10, I doubt anyone will think you're an *******. But that's about it.

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08-12-2014 , 10:39 AM

#4832

AngusThermopyle

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Originally Posted by rakeme

... since dealers/players at the table already view me as cheap anyway. There's no real benefit to tipping if it's not going to be appreciated by the dealer for how often I tip him.

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Originally Posted by rakeme

... you'll be viewed as cheap by the dealer/players at the table?

You really shouldn't be that concerned about how others view you.

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08-12-2014 , 12:28 PM

#4833

Karak

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I tip 1 dollar a pot regardless of how big or small it is, with the exception of stealing the blinds. Also, a little bit more if it's a big pot that took a long time.

Seem fine?

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08-12-2014 , 12:57 PM

#4834

Rapini

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Originally Posted by Karak

I tip 1 dollar a pot regardless of how big or small it is, with the exception of stealing the blinds. Also, a little bit more if it's a big pot that took a long time.

Seem fine?

That's pretty much what I do.

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08-12-2014 , 04:07 PM

#4835

spring83

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Shouldn't we be more concerned with the actual dealer that we are tipping, not the pot sizes? We should tip good dealers almost every hand, with bigger tips for bigger pots; and really poor/rude dealers should always get nada.

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08-12-2014 , 04:29 PM

#4836

Land O Lakes

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Originally Posted by spring83

Yes, of course, but the general belief, espoused by guys like 2Outs, is that these incompetent or rude dealers are actually fine, and you're just cheap and looking for any reason to not tip.

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08-12-2014 , 04:35 PM

#4837

Rapini

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Originally Posted by spring83

That's a consideration too, although I admit that I'm not vigilant enough about it myself especially when a subpar dealer pushes me a big pot.

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08-12-2014 , 06:25 PM

#4838

YoungPokerStar

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My tipping is generally pretty average with $1 per hand and $2-$3 on pots that are quite large at the 2/5 Mixed Game level. The guy who runs the home game I frequent twice a week always harps on me that I shouldn't forget the dealer AFTER tipping as I stated above. He knows I play for a living on top of this which should seem to matter in some sense. Should I just continue to tip the same way and ignore his statements or really up my tipping to shut him up?

He particularly seems to say this stuff when I'm stuck heavily and tipping $1 in non-split pots only.

He's just full of it right?

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08-12-2014 , 06:30 PM

#4839

AngusThermopyle

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Originally Posted by YoungPokerStar

The guy who runs the home game

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He's just full of it right?

Do you want to get invited back to the home game?

His basketball. His rules.

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08-12-2014 , 08:42 PM

#4840

steamraise

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Originally Posted by spring83

Shouldn't we be more concerned with the actual dealer that we are tipping, not the pot sizes?
We should tip good dealers almost every hand, with bigger tips for bigger pots; and really poor/rude dealers should always get nada.

I wish.

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08-12-2014 , 09:23 PM

#4841

2OutsNoProb

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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes

Yes, of course, but the general belief, espoused by guys like 2Outs, is that these incompetent or rude dealers are actually fine, and you're just cheap and looking for any reason to not tip.

Your obsession with me is beginning to get a bit creepy. I've seen you show up for two weeks straight in every thread I'm in. It's pathetic.

It is clear to any objective observer that there are a boatload of cheap people in this thread whose sole goal is to find nitty reasons not to tip dealers because they don't want to give away money.

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08-12-2014 , 09:24 PM

#4842

2OutsNoProb

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Originally Posted by YoungPokerStar

He kind of is full of it, and you don't have to listen to him because it seems you tip reasonably well, but you shouldn't alter your tipping just because you're stuck.

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08-13-2014 , 10:49 AM

#4843

Rush17

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

you shouldn't alter your tipping just because you're stuck.

and he also shouldn't tip more just because the pot was big, right?

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08-13-2014 , 10:57 AM

#4844

Rapini

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Originally Posted by Rush17

and he also shouldn't tip more just because the pot was big, right?

For me the time a pot takes is more important than the size.

Playing 2/5 NLHE and I cooler someone with AA v KK aipf for a grand? $1 is great.
Playing 4/8 LO8 and I scoop a $200 pot with two sidepots? I'm likely to tip more than $1 there.

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08-13-2014 , 11:05 AM

#4845

Rush17

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Originally Posted by Rapini

I base it on who the dealer was in the box. Very good dealers gets a little extra on both scenarios, but an incompetent and/or rude dealer gets nothing. I don't care if I'm stuck, winning, on a heater, or if the pot was mega-huge or really small...if you're a great dealer, then I tip you, and if you're not, well then get used to getting nothing from me, or, here's a concept: if you feel like doing something really fun and different, you can always try to improve at your job opposed to wondering why so many players stiff you, or why your box isn't as full as steamraise's.

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08-13-2014 , 11:38 AM

#4846

donkatruck

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If I win a standard pot, I'll tip $1 at 1/2. If I steal the blinds it's just nothing.

If I make less than $10 myself on a small pot, I'll take a dollar and put it on the rail. If I win another small pot during the dealer's shift, I'll give him that dollar. If not, I'll give him that dollar when his shift ends, so on small pots, I'm tipping about 50-75 cents effectively.

If I win a very large pot, I'll give the dealer up to $5.

If a dealer has been very good (fast, correct, friendly) I'll toss him a dollar as he leaves even if I didn't win a pot from him.

Seems fair to me and most dealers seem to like me.

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08-13-2014 , 06:32 PM

#4847

2OutsNoProb

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Would certainly say that the above is a generous philosophy that any dealer would and should be pleased with.

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08-13-2014 , 06:33 PM

#4848

2OutsNoProb

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Originally Posted by Rush17

and he also shouldn't tip more just because the pot was big, right?

That's up to him. Not necessarily. I like tipping based on the length of time the hand takes. By definition, larger pots will usually be longer hands.

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08-13-2014 , 10:55 PM

#4849

NineNatural

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

That's up to him. Not necessarily. I like tipping based on the length of time the hand takes. By definition, larger pots will usually be longer hands.

What about a midstakes 2-7 game that often gets very short. Cranks out a ton of hands per hour. Is a dollar every 3rd pot or so (or an equivalent amount using a different method/just tipping at the end of a down) good?

eta - public american casino/cardroom

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08-14-2014 , 02:06 AM

#4850

xniNja

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What's wrong with tipping less when stuck?

I think if you aren't winning you don't bear the burden of tipping as much.

Whoever is winning should be tipping (more.) If they're not, maybe they have their own reason for it or maybe they're really stuck.

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