Saw the following floor ruling last night at Casino Du Lac Leamy in Quebec, and I was curious about it, namely, does this follow the typical industry view, or not?

A player is in the small blind. He's new and very inexperienced, making a lot of beginner mistakes he's had to be corrected on just for not knowing any better. He's been told that if there is a single chip put in the pot, it's considered a call, but if there's more than one, it's a raise.

So, there he is in the small blind. It limps around to him, and he tosses a single green $25 chip out next to his $1 small blind. He does not make a move toward the chips.

Big blind says quickly "I check, I check."

SB says immediately "Wait, wait, that's a raise." (No cards have come out.)

Dealer explains to him he only put in one chip. He says, "I"m already in the blind, there's more than one chip out there?" Dealer gets defensive, says, "Well, usually people take the blind chip back." and calls the floor.

Floor sides with the dealer, rules it a call.

This surprised me because where I'd played previously, that sort of action would be ruled a raise (since there's more than one chip out there) or, at the very least, the dealer would stop and clarify the action.

The standard ruling is a call.

/thread

OP, the reasoning here is this. The SB's single $1 chip is already part of the pot. When he tried to raise, he placed a single over sized chip into the pot. Therefore he is calling. Had he said "raise" before he acted, he would have been okay.

When he was being coached on procedure, someone should have suggested he verbalize all his actions at least until he was comfortable with what he was doing.

What if the player picks up the $1 chip, adds the $25 chip, and throws both in together? (one hand, one motion)

Raise. As played, call every time.

Yup. And like I say every two weeks this thread get created.. People need to stop worrying about somebody getting a soul read off of one syllable. Just say 'raise'.

To me this is obviously a raise and in most places I have played that is how this is called ..... but sometimes I hear of a place that says this is call.....


Plus you run the risk that the dealer wasn't watching when you did this..

even an idiot can get a read when an inexperienced fish raises 13x


btw, i think this should be a raise