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03-31-2008 , 04:06 PM

Bluegrassplayer

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I'm not sure about the ruling here as I don't play tournaments very often. Also not sure if this belongs here, but I think that it does.

There are 3 players left in this donkfest.

I am BB, Button shoves and is called by SB. SB wins, knocking out the button.

Afterwards SB is given the button and I am BB for the second hand in a row?

I ask for the floor who says that this is correct.

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03-31-2008 , 04:14 PM

663366

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Button moves clockwise.

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03-31-2008 , 04:16 PM

Bluegrassplayer

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Now that you mention it, yes it does move clockwise.

Thank you for the help.

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03-31-2008 , 04:22 PM

Carpal \'Tunnel

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When going from 3 handed to 2 handed the button goes to the most recent big blind.

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03-31-2008 , 04:23 PM

Bluegrassplayer

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Thanks. I couldn't believe that this happened. Seemed to be just so wrong to me.

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03-31-2008 , 04:29 PM

663366

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Oh? that's interesting.. didn't know that. As well as going clockwise, I would've thought since SB has completed the cycle it's his turn, and the BB is just paying 1 SB extra anyway not a whole BB since he would've been the SB if button was not eliminated.

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03-31-2008 , 04:31 PM

Bluegrassplayer

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It just doesn't make sense that someone is ever BB twice. It was especially important in this donkament where both our Ms were less than 10.

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03-31-2008 , 04:42 PM

bav

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El correcto. You don't have to be the BB twice. TDA rule #35.

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Button in Heads-Up: When heads-up the small blind is on the button and acts first. When beginning heads-up play the button may need to be adjusted to ensure that, no player takes the big blind twice in a row.

Thanks to this addition to the TDA rules last year I have an official reference I can point out when moronic TD's insist "big blind on the button." I had that argument several times in one room and the TD was quite positive I was on crack.

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03-31-2008 , 05:04 PM

youtalkfunny

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Originally Posted by 663366

Button moves clockwise.

No, the Big Blind moves clockwise. The button USUALLY moves clockwise.

EDIT TO ADD: Back in the day, I was playing in a tournament on Pacific Poker (they still around?). Blinds are getting pricey, 500-1000. Almost-full table, only Seat 2 is empty.

Seat 1: Button
Seat 2: empty
Seat 3: SB
Seat 4: BB (me)

While the hand is being played, a player from a broken table is moved into our empty Seat 2.

Next hand,

Seat 2: Button (?)
Seat 3: SB (!)
Seat 4: BB (me, again!!!)

I guess they felt "The button moves clockwise."

I stopped playing their tournaments after that one.

Last edited by youtalkfunny; 03-31-2008 at 05:09 PM.

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03-31-2008 , 05:37 PM

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KidLifeCrisis

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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny

No, the Big Blind moves clockwise. The button USUALLY moves clockwise.

Good correction. The button sometimes doesn't move when blinds bust out.

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