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06-26-2010 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jasoncalacanis
Really the only thing that matter is a) did I have a good time, b) was I entertaining, c) will I get invited back. Feels like yes on all three.
d) Do you masturbate to yourself in the mirror?

This also "feels like yes".
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06-26-2010 , 12:51 AM
tbh whether you liked him or not he made for good tv and that is way more important in terms of getting ppl watching tv poker and then playing poker. every story needs a villain, likeability isn't really important when making tv poker tables. he didnt even play that bad either
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06-26-2010 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jasoncalacanis
Laying down second best set on a textured board like that--where someone could easily have the straight or the higher set--is not an unheard of move. You could easily call the all in or lay it down.
How could you not want to gamble in that spot?

I would like to see JC on a TV cash game again. His bad table manner and lack of class is pretty entertaining.

I'm sure when he gets invited back he will be playing with PH, and the producers will tell him to go after Phil which will result in more epic exchanges a la the PH vs.Zeidman PAD show.

Last edited by bobby777; 06-26-2010 at 02:47 AM.
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06-26-2010 , 02:46 AM
Eh, he hasn't been THAT bad. There are plenty of "live pros" who would rank lower on my list of people I'd want to see at the table.
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06-26-2010 , 02:58 AM
If u wanna be a winning player, dont fold sets on the flop haha
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06-26-2010 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
They actually have to make pitches for other players to sit down at these tables?
If the pitch doesn't work they each get 15 minutes alone w/ Amanda Leatherman.

Which is obv the reason doyle came. They can't keep themselves off of each other
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06-26-2010 , 03:59 AM
He is annoying but bearable. The sharks want him around he is the worst donk. Has a million tells too.
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06-26-2010 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jasoncalacanis
Laying down second best set on a textured board like that--where someone could easily have the straight or the higher set--is not an unheard of move. You could easily call the all in or lay it down.

With one tight player (doyle) going all in, and one sophisticated cash player (abe) calling... it's a lot easier for me to fold. If it was heads up I would have called.

Anyway, I'm clearly the worst player at the table and I know that coming in. I'm there because I knew it would be fun, and an honor, to play with those guys.... I had the time of my life and if I win or lose a little it's irrelevant.

Really the only thing that matter is a) did I have a good time, b) was I entertaining, c) will I get invited back. Feels like yes on all three.

They were in fact pitching this table as dead money central to the other players to get them to sit down..... they were pitching the LC hard as a donkey (nine years as a pro... a donkey, really?), me as the whale and Phil H. as dead money tournament pro who can't keep it together.

The sad part was that Phil didn't make it.... everyone was crushed by that.

I'll get 10% better between now and the next show, and who knows, maybe I will get invited to give my money to Durr and Ivey on the HSP next year. :-)

see you guys at the final table.... best j
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
your a good sport 4poasting and GL2u
This

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Originally Posted by blackjacki2
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Commenting on how much someone else is tipping is kind of lame. Commenting on how much someone else is tipping on television? Give me a break. I bet even the dealer felt awkward.
But also this


I might just be soft but I think everyone this week was vaguely likeable, making the tipping into pissing contest charity event was a big mistake - but I've seen rich businessmen act in brash, crass ways before when they don't realise how it comes across. All in all I think it's only a minor character flaw.

Tipping $100 to $1000 after every hand played but not mentioning it would have leaked out into the public domain and would have made you a hero - mishandled PR opportunity imo.
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06-26-2010 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jasoncalacanis
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Really the only thing that matter is a) did I have a good time, b) was I entertaining, c) will I get invited back. Feels like yes on all three.

.... best j
I wholeheartedly agree. You were pleasant toward others, you obviously possessed the fortitude to be able to lose big yet continue playing with optimism (an ability lacking in a certain well-known NLHE tourney pro), and you were generous as befitting your worldly status.

I thank you for coming into such a hostile camp as the 2+2 TV poker sub-forum and sharing with us your perspective, and I look forward to seeing you appear on future high-stakes cash game shows, whether you improve at poker or not.

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06-26-2010 , 11:01 AM
I liked Jason on the show and he Jamie Golded the **** out of Daniel.
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06-26-2010 , 01:01 PM
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you're a good sport 4poasting and GL2u
this.

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
I don't know what some of you are talking about, he's great for the show.
and this. tight aggressive pros folding in silence is not good TV. the televised cash games need some amateur/businessman types to mix things up and keep the games good enough for the name players to want to play in. at least he's not a huge nit like jerry buss or a whiny unpleasant POS like bob safai.
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06-26-2010 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Duende
this.



and this. tight aggressive pros folding in silence is not good TV. the televised cash games need some amateur/businessman types to mix things up and keep the games good enough for the name players to want to play in. at least he's not a huge nit like jerry buss or a whiny unpleasant POS like bob safai.
Are you kidding me, I want to see more of Bob Safai. He is so bad its great.
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06-26-2010 , 01:56 PM
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Laying down second best set on a textured board like that--where someone could easily have the straight or the higher set--is not an unheard of move. You could easily call the all in or lay it down.

With one tight player (doyle) going all in, and one sophisticated cash player (abe) calling... it's a lot easier for me to fold. If it was heads up I would have called.
I watched the hands a few times and have to say first that the pot limit pre-flop thing is assinine and usually prices everyone in so they don't fold. Great for TV bad for poker. With that said the KK hand you were destined to lose a lot of chips on that hand Doyle has getting 2 to 1 or a little better for a set? It's a grey area but Doyle is aggressive and is not folding. After the flop his minraise should have raised the alarm and your snap all in should have been a check. You may have not totally got off the hand but you may have minimized your losses there.

The set of 10s hand I think your first mistake was not re-raising with 10s, again with that PL preflop crap it may have gotten K2s out and may have gotten Doyle out but since he was priced in he of course called. After the flop you were basically screwed as once Doyle popped you Abe isn't going anywhere. As for your fold it's a tough one but if you were a serious cash player you have to make that call. You didn't and it worked out but I think your calling and no re-raising was the difference. If that was NL you would have gotten both out or at least Abe out as he is not nearly the player Doyle is.
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06-26-2010 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by brotupelo
so it's ok to say "i'll show you for x", but it's not ok to say "i don't really need x, but she could use it, so give it to her and i'll show you"?

i liked the move.
Here's an even better move: "I'll show you for x which I will give to charity."
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06-26-2010 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
... the pot limit pre-flop thing is assinine and usually prices everyone in so they don't fold. Great for TV bad for poker. ...
It stops it being all played preflop and the players have to actually show some post flop skills.

Obviously it's good for TV - but I don't really see how that can be bad for poker
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06-26-2010 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by beloved_ltd
It stops it being all played preflop and the players have to actually show some post flop skills.

Obviously it's good for TV - but I don't really see how that can be bad for poker
It actually doesn't change much. Even in televised cash games that have no-limit preflop, they are rarely betting a ton more than the pot. I think it's same to assume that the reason it's pot limit preflop is to prevent the loose cannon from getting desperate at the end and just start shoving preflop and hoping for a double up.

A pot raise from early position is $3,200 and a reraise is $15,200 or so. Not bad for a $400 big blind.

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06-27-2010 , 04:29 PM
Naaah, it's 2000$, which is still 5x in a 200/400 game with the 600 button ante. 400 + 400 + 400 + 200 + 600.

But I agree with you, it doesn't change much at all.
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06-27-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by beloved_ltd

Tipping $100 to $1000 after every hand played but not mentioning it would have leaked out into the public domain and would have made you a hero - mishandled PR opportunity imo.
i don't mind when people tip a lot and they tell people about it. I think he was just trying to have fun and be lively for the camera. The guy must be smart and he's gotta know if he sits there quietly, it's going to be boring and he won't be invited back (unless he dumps off a TON of money - which he wasn't that type of player obviously). Also I'm sure the dealer was happy.

What I didn't like was when he told the other players they should tip or imply they should tip more.

Anyway, I am sure if he watches the show he'll see that that was a little over the line...but we should cut him a break...he was just trying to make interesting TV.
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06-27-2010 , 08:36 PM
its a lot easier game when you see everyone's cards...then to talk in a forum about how bad of a player he was is wrong. he made good laydowns, calls,etc. nothing wrong with the play with folding set. nothing wrong with how he played the 77. he knows daniel plays small/medium cards and knows daniel isnt folding to a reraise on the flop. only thing you can do is call on the turn...sure he got lucky on the river...but didnt he have the best hand to start? why is daniel playing 68 to start with? he is obviously using his position as he did vs EDubl.
not saying i am a fan of jason..in fact never heard of the guy before watching this week...but just saying that i dont dislike him either. he played abc poker basically. infact you would want him at your table wouldnt you? when you are an amateur (with money and invited to sit down) with nothing to prove to the pro's....you try to make the correct plays without getting embarrassed on national tv...it shows some guts. of course doyle ran into monster hand after hand so if it wasnt for the kk vs 66 hand, jason may have came out up in money.
to watch every tv hand of all the players is insane amount of research. he did his homework...but next time should work on table talk... learn to disguise his hands and actually quit talking when he has the nuts (and when he says hes going to quit talking).
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06-28-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by brotupelo
so it's ok to say "i'll show you for x", but it's not ok to say "i don't really need x, but she could use it, so give it to her and i'll show you"?

i liked the move.
So you like embarrassing a player to tip someone? It isn't the same as asking them to give you a chip, but to put someone in that spot to tip someone else is not right.

If he does't tip the dealer he looks cheap, think about it. If he does say give me the $$ and I'll show you then he gives it to the dealer that would be better but the other way is classless.
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06-28-2010 , 03:32 PM
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06-28-2010 , 07:11 PM
. . . and I thought some of the pros were *******s! This guy wins hands down!
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06-28-2010 , 08:22 PM
"I made a great laydown"
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07-09-2010 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maxz
Here's an even better move: "I'll show you for x which I will give to charity."
The day you start doing this, then you can suggest others hold to your standards but in the context of the environment his action was A-OK by me.

I did not appreciate how we tried to embarrass DN by bringing up his tipping habits, but I suspect that's a personality flaw.

Overall, really funny guy and he knew exactly why he was there, no pretense of being invited because he's a 'poker guy'.
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07-10-2010 , 08:38 PM
I had no problem with Jason on the show. I think he played considering the tough opposition and wasn't afraid to mix it up. Obviously the money doesn't matter to him it was light-hearted and he was entertaining.

I think it was a little awkard at times with the tipping the dealer stuff which could be done in a more dignified manner but other than that I wouldn't mind seeing Jason on a poker show again.
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