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01-23-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
They seriously would have rewarded a beligerant player by letting him leave with 7 times his buyin? I find that rather hard to believe.
7x starting stack is not worth 7x buyin. At some point in the tournament 7x starting stack could be the shortstack. Not sure how they would have valued it. In any event a disqualified player should not be given a refund.
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01-23-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
They seriously would have rewarded a beligerant player by letting him leave with 7 times his buyin? I find that rather hard to believe.
That's what he said. I want to believe he misspoke and wouldn't have gone through with it but who knows. It was just a $40 tournament and I was new to poker so I didn't bother to follow up.
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01-23-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
They seriously would have rewarded a beligerant player by letting him leave with 7 times his buyin? I find that rather hard to believe.
Yeah... I mean that would be ridiculous. I wish I could just cash my stack out of a tournament anytime I wanted before the end. Lol
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01-23-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Reducto
The TD did it because it was the easiest way to get the drunk to leave peacefully and it costs the casino nothing. Easy and right are not the same thing.
Apparently it cost the casino $8 which is more than the $7 that left the prize pool.
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01-23-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I don't necessarily agree with this. Its not like waiting is prejudicing any other players. I suppose if the tournament director makes a point of announcing he is going to gve back the money that would be an appropriate time to object ... but i don;t think you have an obligation to find out if the TD is giving refunds. Quite honestly I would assume their was no refund being given and I don;t think I should have an obligation to ask at any particular time.
Yeah I just assumed that his money was staying in when they refunded him. Not going to ask right then and there about his money when there are like 10 players left and 3 cash. It was only when I actually placed that it became an issue.
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01-23-2017 , 05:57 PM
What if it was a heads up SNG?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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01-23-2017 , 05:59 PM
I cant believe the number of responses saying "dont be that guy for $7". Crazy. The amount doesnt mattet. They are setting a precedence...if I am playing and become short stacked why cant I just be beligerant and get a refund? It is the dumbest thing I have ever heard and for those that think its not worth saying something- you just dont understand.

But OP...best time to make a stink is as soon as you know it is happening

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01-23-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sethnoorzad
Yeah I just assumed that his money was staying in when they refunded him. Not going to ask right then and there about his money when there are like 10 players left and 3 cash. It was only when I actually placed that it became an issue.
I would never assume the money was staying n the prize pool if I knew he was getting a refund. Casinos are generally not in the business of just giving away money....

But I wouldn't assume he was getting a refund if I saw him get thrown out.
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01-23-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DetroitJunkie
I cant believe the number of responses saying "dont be that guy for $7". Crazy. The amount doesnt mattet. They are setting a precedence...if I am playing and become short stacked why cant I just be beligerant and get a refund? It is the dumbest thing I have ever heard and for those that think its not worth saying something- you just dont understand.

But OP...best time to make a stink is as soon as you know it is happening

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There is a world of difference from raising the issue and raising a stink. about it.

While I don;t see anything wrong with a player questioning the prize pool over a small amount. But for a couple of dollars if they tell me that they refunded that guys money and thats why its not in the prize pool ... I'm not going to scream and call for gaming. I'm going to tell them they shouldn;t refund the buyin to a disqualified player and leave quietly and probably not play again (though I doubt I would have been playing there to begin with)
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01-23-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DetroitJunkie
if I am playing and become short stacked why cant I just be beligerant and get a refund?
Because then you'd be That Guy for $15.

I agree with the sentiment - as a general rule, if you have no shame, there's a substantial amount of money to be made by burning every single person you come in contact with.

But most non-transients find that dicking people over incurs a really strong social penalty which grossly outweighs the few bucks you can collect here and there by being a raging *******.

Sure, you can argue exactly how big the tournament buyin would have to be before someone really should come up with a better rule. $15? $30? $100? $1,000? I have no good answer. But for sure a $15 tournament is on the extreme low end of all tournaments and it's really low compared to the average amount of money someone has in their wallet (that is, people don't need to plan to enter the tourney, they can get drunk first and see if they have money left over), so that's why many of us are willing to dismiss the concern.
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01-23-2017 , 07:03 PM
$7 buy in with $8 rake my ****ing goodness.
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01-23-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DetroitJunkie
I cant believe the number of responses saying "dont be that guy for $7". Crazy. The amount doesnt mattet. They are setting a precedence...if I am playing and become short stacked why cant I just be beligerant and get a refund? It is the dumbest thing I have ever heard and for those that think its not worth saying something- you just dont understand.

But OP...best time to make a stink is as soon as you know it is happening

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Thank you! God. It's not being rude to just demand that the poker room
follow normal rules. It's not about the amount. If someone working there takes it as me "being a dick" then that's their problem. It's not being a dick to just get what you're owed.
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01-23-2017 , 07:56 PM
It is being a dick depending on how you say it. You can approach the floor staff in a respectful way. When OP says that he "demanded" the money to go back to the prizepool, he's being a dick.

I agree that the amount doesn't matter, it's either right or wrong for the room to do such a thing.

This is quickly becoming a "Yeah, but" thread, where OP just wants everybody to tell him he's right.
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01-23-2017 , 08:05 PM
It's possible theoretically that "demanding" meant going to the TD and saying "hey shouldn't that guy's money be included in the payouts" with a smile, but judging from the other posts by OP, I doubt it.
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01-23-2017 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
It's possible theoretically that "demanding" meant going to the TD and saying "hey shouldn't that guy's money be included in the payouts" with a smile, but judging from the other posts by OP, I doubt it.
Lol yeah of course I was polite at first. Then when they said his money wasn't in the prize pool I politely demanded that it be returned to the prize pool. Yeah a bunch of people were like "oh my god this guy is such a douche". Lol ... sorry? I mean I guess if I'm just being negative or annoying then that would be wrong. Don't think I was though. Once they paid me the full amount I said "have a nice day" and left.
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01-23-2017 , 09:05 PM
Anybody who uses the word "demand" is almost never saying it politely. Of course OP is going to keep telling us that he totally was.

Tip: If a bunch of people think you're a douche, it's probably because you're acting like one.
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01-23-2017 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawlz517
Anybody who uses the word "demand" is almost never saying it politely. Of course OP is going to keep telling us that he totally was.

Tip: If a bunch of people think you're a douche, it's probably because you're acting like one.
Well... if I was... God help me. Or science.... or therapy.
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01-23-2017 , 09:21 PM
What's something I can say to not continue sounding like a defensive dick? I accept your judgment, oh venerated online peers. I defer, I acquiesce with meek humility. Thank you.
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01-23-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sethnoorzad
What's something I can say to not continue sounding like a defensive dick? I accept your judgment, oh venerated online peers. I defer, I acquiesce with meek humility. Thank you.
Send us all $3.00
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01-23-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sethnoorzad
What's something I can say to not continue sounding like a defensive dick? I accept your judgment, oh venerated online peers. I defer, I acquiesce with meek humility. Thank you.
Well, not this ^^^.
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01-23-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
There is a world of difference from raising the issue and raising a stink. about it.

While I don;t see anything wrong with a player questioning the prize pool over a small amount. But for a couple of dollars if they tell me that they refunded that guys money and thats why its not in the prize pool ... I'm not going to scream and call for gaming. I'm going to tell them they shouldn;t refund the buyin to a disqualified player and leave quietly and probably not play again (though I doubt I would have been playing there to begin with)
Well right...poor choice of words by me. Just meant the time is immediate and not just only if/when you cash. Doing the right thing is doing it right away so whoever wins gets their rightful cash. Obvs you should always remain calm and courteous whenever you are speaking to management and workers alike (in any business) about issues at hand.

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01-23-2017 , 10:47 PM
Best tree fiddy troll thread ever.
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01-23-2017 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KL03
Best tree fiddy troll thread ever.
OMG, did we all fall for it??
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01-23-2017 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sethnoorzad
What's something I can say to not continue sounding like a defensive dick?
For starters, nothing would be better than whatever you're doing.

You can't say you were polite "at first" and then when you didn't get your way you "demanded" the money, and expect people not to realize what you mean.
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01-24-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DetroitJunkie
Well right...poor choice of words by me. Just meant the time is immediate and not just only if/when you cash. Doing the right thing is doing it right away so whoever wins gets their rightful cash. Obvs you should always remain calm and courteous whenever you are speaking to management and workers alike (in any business) about issues at hand.

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My point was more about the amount of money being relevant to the response.
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