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05-02-2008 , 11:07 PM

nortonmalc

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I was playing a 1/2 NL game and in the BB when the girl to my left puts up a $4 straddle. Table folds around to me so it is just the two of us left in the pot. I was just wondering if it is customary or even legal for the BB to chop the blinds with the straddler pf and if so should the SB be given his blind back despite the fact that he folded? I haven't played a lot live so I was just curious.

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05-02-2008 , 11:12 PM

holmfries

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05-03-2008 , 01:27 AM

mfpaul

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nope. the straddle is not a blind any more. can't chop with the straddler.

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05-03-2008 , 02:09 PM

oldmangrimis

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why not if it only two player, the BB and the straddler, why cant they chop. no one else is in the pot, you gust have to agree who get the SB maybe the straddler

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05-03-2008 , 02:34 PM

AKQJ10

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If the house isn't strict about enforcing chip-passing rules for 1BBL, you can do what you like here. Technically you'd have to give the straddler both blinds in a walkover, but she could elect not to take them.

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05-03-2008 , 04:36 PM

soulvamp

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Everywhere I've ever played, the fact that the straddle is a VPIP means it can't be chopped.

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05-03-2008 , 07:11 PM

psandman

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Originally Posted by oldmangrimis

why not if it only two player, the BB and the straddler, why cant they chop. no one else is in the pot, you gust have to agree who get the SB maybe the straddler

Because there isn't just two players in the pot. There is a small blind.

You only get to chop when there is no other money in the pot.

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05-03-2008 , 11:17 PM

mfpaul

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Originally Posted by oldmangrimis

why not if it only two player, the BB and the straddler, why cant they chop. no one else is in the pot, you gust have to agree who get the SB maybe the straddler

because you can only chop between the blinds. i.e. those who are forced to put money in the pot. the straddle voluntarily min raises blind in the dark for the option of buying position pre flop. Since he/she was not forced to put money into the pot, his bet is no different than if he min raised after seeing his cards and everybody else folded around to the BB. the BB can call/raise/fold but cannot chop because somebody already entered the pot.

Michael

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05-03-2008 , 11:31 PM

Buzz-cp

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I played in this spread limit game at b101 where bb, sb and button have a blind. All three had to agree to chop. It would make sense that it would be something like that in your game. Since SB folded, there is no chop. In the case where SB wants to chop, I guess you could just call the floor over and ask for a ruling.

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05-04-2008 , 12:44 AM

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danxd

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At Commerece, if the small blind folds the house will collect the $1 jackpot drop and allow the others to chop. At least in low-limit games. I am not sure about N/L.

FYI...this is the only place I have seen this.

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05-04-2008 , 01:54 PM

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Dennisa

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Originally Posted by danxd

LA card clubs are a different animal. At least management see keeping its customers happy with a very liberal chop policy. In games with single blinds, if only one limper is in the pot they will allow the player just to chop. Stupid laws requiring fixed drops. If playing in the city of angels, if a regular asks you to chop, they are useually correct.

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05-04-2008 , 03:08 PM

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orensi

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Originally Posted by Buzz-cp

This is a totally different situation. Its still the blinds chopping.
You cant chop a straddle.

Also - table selection.

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05-04-2008 , 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennisa

They do this at the Bicycle Club in two blind games if there is just one limper and the small blind folds. They take part of the small blind for the house anyway, and the limper and BB both take their money back. Don't remember what they do with any extra SB money.

Rob

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05-05-2008 , 01:17 PM

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oldmangrimis

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Originally Posted by psandman

Because there isn't just two players in the pot. There is a small blind.

You only get to chop when there is no other money in the pot.

OP said that the small blind folded so the is just two player in the pot. how about if all all 3 player agree to chop/bull back, no one else is in the hand why not.

It might be a rule of the room that there is no other money in the pot, but if it not two player are left the BB and Str they can chop becouse no one else has any claim to that pot at that time( also get game going faster, no rake)

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05-05-2008 , 01:24 PM

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oldmangrimis

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Originally Posted by mfpaul

Are you speeking of a room rule, becouse from what i know from the rule of poker. If all player playing in a pot want to chop or make a deal they can (poker rules not room rules)

what about force straddle

SB fold, BB says do you want to chop to the Str. He agree. who can say "you cant chop because somebody already entered the pot" I say "where the only one now in on this pot you don't have a say about this pot" am I wrong

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