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10-19-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Considering a normal buy-in for online games is 100bb, and this game is 250bb. Many LCs have been up 100bb.
what do you know?
you bet kk into trup queens so stfu.

just kidding obv.
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10-19-2010 , 03:31 PM
It's true. that_pope did bet kk into trup qq. I saw it just now on the bathroom stall.
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10-19-2010 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KJoff
this is exactly what i expected from nvg...

first all you guys pretend to be russ friends, tell him how great he plays etc. and once you know he busts you start kicking his balls when hes down and criticize his decisions.

hate to say i told you so...
[ ] nvg
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10-19-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFizzbin
I strongly think the straddles work against the LC's The pros have a deeper supply of money off the table to draw from, The LC only has whats on table. So if an LC makes a mistake in a deeper straddled pot it hurts their fixed budget more.

Basically forces tighter play.
I think straddling is fine when you are down, especially later in the session when you have less time to get above 100k. But when you are up, that is just dusting away profits.
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10-19-2010 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
[ ] nvg
[x] im an idiot
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10-19-2010 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KJoff
[x] im an idiot
confirmed
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10-19-2010 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyX
Russ, one question: "Called up to the big league" analogies aside, were you aware at hand 83 that you could fold the final 100 hands and be +$60K? If you were aware and decided to continue to play, I commend you for it, but I would not have done the same.

To the forum, how many of you if you were the LC and double up the very first hand to $200K would fold every single hand? -$30K to fold 150 hands straight, which would leave you at +$70K with zero variance. I would absolutely do this in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even pretend to be looking at my hands and would auto-muck my BB in a limp pot before the flop. I don't even care if everyone would hate me. Everyone hates the Indianapolis Colts when they rest their starters after locking up home field advantage, but zero percent chance Manning gets injured.
Yes
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10-19-2010 , 10:26 PM
DN played lolbad

Why is PS pushing him so much? Seems forced..
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10-19-2010 , 11:30 PM
its really fun rooting for viff. I puked when Tony G hit that straight.
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10-20-2010 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KJoff
this is exactly what i expected from nvg...

first all you guys pretend to be russ friends, tell him how great he plays etc. and once you know he busts you start kicking his balls when hes down and criticize his decisions.

hate to say i told you so...
NVG and Television Forum are two different things no?

Edit: i see someone brought it up already

Last edited by Zajebisty; 10-20-2010 at 12:53 AM. Reason: someone beat me to it
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10-20-2010 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyX
C'mon, I can't be the only life-nit who would take $70K and run even in the face of p*ssing off all the TV producers and players at the table. It would totally ruin the entire week of shows, and I wouldn't give one bit of dog doo.
It depends on the person's expectation. If it were me, I'd just hope to get on a good run and play tight when there are not many hands remaining (less than 75) --- and making a satisfactory profit. I wouldn't really care too much about the NAPT passport. If the pros call me a nit, sobeit. I don't really care.

If money wasn't important, then the correct strategy would be to gamble it up all the way to the end. Obviously, the worst thing that can happen is making fundamental errors that can easily be avoided.
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10-20-2010 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zajebisty
NVG and Television Forum are two different things no?

Edit: i see someone brought it up already
yeah, its ok...
just keep flaming me because of a little mistake, thats exactly what i expected from bbv...
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10-20-2010 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Leobzook
I don't think LCs call with the Q high flush was a good one, hard to put daniel on a bluff there, what can he be bluffing with?
This is not a poker game, this is a game show.
Russ is the first LC that has had the benefit of watching the show online. He has surely seen that Daniel will not check to the LC ever. In every single hand that he's been up against a LC he has bluffed the end. If you're sitting there and you know that DN refuses to check to you on the end, you must call on the end more often.

Many people here are commenting on the LC performance as if he's an equal to the other players. He is not, he can not rebuy and the pros know that he's playing a freezeout while they are playing a cash game.
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10-20-2010 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KJoff
are you comparing a freeroll to the big game?lol
what really makes me angry bout that guy is that he had the chance to pocket some $ for himself and his family but out of selfishness he turned that down to attentionwhore one more week.
the guy is delivering donuts at night, its not that that 20k or what it was doesnt matter to him, he has a family to support for christs sake.
how unrealistic do you have to be to think that it would be a great idea and +ev to play another week vs 4 topplayers and daniel negreanu?
he had to realize that he got extremely lucky the first time to even be up, and to not take that donation from ph and run is plain out idiotic in my eyes.
im just saying that i wouldve had more respect for the guy if he took that money and supported his family with it.
sorry, but thats my opinion.
Who are you to judge this guy. He says that he and his wife talked it over and she was behind him. That's the only opinion that he needs to concern himself with.
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10-21-2010 , 02:37 AM
I ended up playing back at the guy with the nuts (Justin) because of the other guy, who was actually nuts (Lex), who was playing back at me.[/QUOTE]

**** me ^^
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10-21-2010 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RaSZi
I ended up playing back at the guy with the nuts (Justin) because of the other guy, who was actually nuts (Lex), who was playing back at me.

**** me ^^
Yeah - you guys had my head spinning - I suppose I should have put "nuts" in quotations. I had very little opportunity to see either you or Justin play before I faced you on the felt. I had no idea what I was in for.

Lex, I never had an opportunity to thank you and Evelyn for being so kind to my wife in the green room on day 1 (although I mentioned it ITT).

Thanks.
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10-21-2010 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kratos
DN played lolbad

Why is PS pushing him so much? Seems forced..
Because he is the face of PokerStars and despite being pretty much hated on 2+2 recreational players do genuinely quite like him.
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10-21-2010 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NYGiants

Lex, I never had an opportunity to thank you and Evelyn for being so kind to my wife in the green room on day 1 (although I mentioned it ITT).

Thanks.
I will definitely second that...Lex, you and Evelyn were definitely the most welcoming of all of the players that we met. It was great to get to hang out with you guys for awhile. And send my thanks on to Evelyn for letting me play with her IPad.
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10-22-2010 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kylephilly
russ, why are you playing AK so passively preflop? this lineup is pretty insane and you're balancing your 3bet range... you're not going to outplay these guys postflop so you should be trying to shovel money in pre and basically bet calling the flop against this lineup
I actually thought this was a great spot for a flat and back raise. I don't mind flatting opens with AK sometimes; it can set up a deceptive situations where people will stack off dominated hands post-flop because they assume you can't have them out-kicked and/or must have a draw when you raise on a Axx board.

Also, a ton of the value of AK is getting pocket pairs to fold preflop (and seeing all five cards), but that won't happen here in the normal 3-betting spots as much as regular online table, for two reasons: 1) the pot limit format means you can't make it 4x to effectively discourage implied odds OOP, and 2) these egomaniacs don't ever want to fold against "the mark", even if they have **** like 95s.

Also, this LC is not aggressive enough to use his initiative to get people off one pair post flop. But back-raising a three-bet and putting in half your stack pre-flop marks your hand as HUGE, and commits you, which is exactly what you want, if you ever want a chance to get a decent pair (or the same hand!) to put in a bunch preflop and then fold.

As said earlier in the thread, if the LC could stick in 120k pre with 40% equity against an opponent's range that would be hugely +EV for the LC in this format.

In this spot, you might not get bonomo off AK, but at least bonomo doesn't get you off AK either, which is what happened.

Hand history:
Barry opens HJ KQ $2700, Negreanu flats K5ss, Russ flat AKo on button, Justin makes it $13700 from straddle position. Russ can make it like 50k here, close his eyes, and stick it in without looking at the flop.

Last edited by ddubois; 10-22-2010 at 03:45 PM. Reason: HH
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10-24-2010 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth Houston
He's honestly not even that good of a hand reader. He's okay, but he makes himself out to be better than he really is.
and she wonders why theres a backlash,,,, delusionnnnn@L
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10-30-2010 , 03:34 AM
I know it's getting close to Christmas but WTF is going on with Daniel giving away chips? I don't know if Stars is giving him an unlimited credit line in this game or has he completely lost it. Everyone makes a hero call here and there if they have a read, but he is doing it all the time and the rest of the table knows it and are exploiting him like an underage prostitute.
Does anyone have a running total of what he has lost in the past few seasons of HSP and the rest of his televised appearances? There is no way he can be anywhere close to even unless I'm missing a lot of his appearances.
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