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03-07-2011 , 02:10 PM

#101

zerosum79

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,978

I think we need the ruling.

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03-07-2011 , 02:13 PM

#102

nonunique

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 80

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Originally Posted by zerosum79

I think we need the ruling.

Scroll up. Hand was live, guy was asked to leave (length of ban unclear).

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03-07-2011 , 02:56 PM

#103

Lestat

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10,998

This is a tough one, b/c where do you draw the line? I've seen people crumple cards a lot. So if he were to have simply bent a card, should his hand still be disqualified? Generally, every effort should be made to award the pot to the best hand. I would have asked the dealer if s/he could verify the cards came from his hand. If the answer is yes, I would have awarded him the pot, then given him a ban.

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03-07-2011 , 02:59 PM

#104

keebler61

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 254

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Originally Posted by Dealer

I was being sarcastc with the Criss Angel question, but meh.

Trying to make him pay for the deck would probably be more trouble than it's worth. They're likely just going to replace the 2 ripped cards using their replacement cards.

I dunno, I get nervous when cards are manipulated or spend time in the hands of a player instead of being on the table where they belong. It's not too hard to learn a little slight of hand illusions.

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03-07-2011 , 03:11 PM

#105

AngusThermopyle

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14,929

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Originally Posted by keebler61

I dunno, I get nervous when cards are manipulated or spend time in the hands of a player instead of being on the table where they belong. It's not too hard to learn a little slight of hand illusions.

It isn't that hard to switch cards that are flat on the felt.

And if someone was going to pull a switch, why would they tear and toss the cards, or bounce them off the felt and onto the floor, or any of the bizarre happenings where people here have expressed fear that maybe someone is switching cards?

If I am going to do something like that, I quietly pull the switch, collect the pot, and hit the cage before someone notices two J

are in the red deck.

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03-07-2011 , 03:28 PM

#106

psandman

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 15,830

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Originally Posted by keebler61

I dunno, I get nervous when cards are manipulated or spend time in the hands of a player instead of being on the table where they belong. It's not too hard to learn a little slight of hand illusions.

Question: If you were going to pull of a sleight of hand trick to win a pot ...... do you think it would be the best fo ideas to tear up the cards...... thats great for an audience, but when you are actually cheating the idea is not to draw attention to what you are doing.

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03-10-2011 , 11:44 PM

#107

Lottery Larry

Home Poker Pimp

Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,603

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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82

When the cards are ripped in half, the cards are not yet tabled.

If the action is going to cause a ban or a hand to be dead, it should be enforced from the time the infraction occured.

I like the way you think and would subscribe to your newsletter.

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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82

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WELL done, sir! I applaud you!
Now I want the gold-plated membership!