Title says it all. He then tries to justify his actions saying that it doesn't change his hand. He talks about what he folded. We've tried to tell him how it affects the action, but it just doesnt sink in. This is happening pre flop and post flop.

He has already been kicked out of one room for his actions.

The floor as well as all the players were telling him that he needs to start following the rules tonight. This was right after he told another player to follow a rule. That didn't go over well. He left all pissed off saying that he has enough money to play wherever he wants and all that stuff. But I know he ll be back.

How can you handle this in a cash game?

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"Floor!"

Have a Floor/Manager with the balls of the Floor/Manager of the other room.

Ban him from the table for a period of time until he learns.

Get as many ppl as you can to agitate to get him barred. If he's active in a hand everybody should say what they folded. Try to get everybody to sit out when he gets seated. Call the floor every. single. time. he does his thing and stop the action for as long as it takes.

these people are always bad at poker. just tell yourself "i want this guy in my games" and then ignore his antics

If he's a big donator to the game and a good tipper give him 24 hours every time he does something stupid like this.
Hopefully he will eventually learn.

If he's beating the game and not much of a tipper give him 24 hours, then 7 days, then a month, then 6 months...
Makes sure he understands the penalty system. He will straighten out.

I guess money can buy anything.

You are talking to poker players. I put up w/ a lot of nonsense every time I play for a few reasons: If we tried to bar everybody that is an ass half the players would have to leave much of the time. Most of them are losers and I need them. People are people and this sort of thing is what you can expect, nobody's an angel. But even I have to draw the line somewhere and what OP describes is pretty much it.

The guy who is donating to the game is worth cutting a little slack for.

The guy who is taking money out of the game is a little less important to the room.
He also has more incentive to cut the crap if he wants to keep making money in the game.

Thanks for the responses.

I would say that this player is definitely a losing player, but not a huge loser. He does start the game a fair amount of time. As far as treating types of players different, I know it happens all the time. It's probably bad, but I think that's just how it works.



But for instance, this happened tonight: A different player cashes out for $300 after the guy that kept folding out of turn told him to put his reds in front so they're visible. As you can imagine he was very frustrated when the player that kept folding out of turn and breaking all the rules, told him that.
This player was tipping great and buying lots of drinks.
He racked up and the guy that was told to start folding in turn cashed out. I thought he was going to stay after the other guy cashed out, but cashed out 5 mins later as well.

He came back approximately 10 mins later, I don't know the exact time though. He gave the floor a $100 and said he wanted $60 in chips. He was told that he needed to buy in for what he cashed for, or wait 30 mins. He grabbed the $100 out of the floors hand as the floor was going to grab his phone to see what time it was. As he walked out he said he would go spend his money somewhere else and find a different poker game.

The phone rang at the casino and it was the player that was just told he had to buy in for what he cashed out for. He said that "he was ran off twice tonight" "that's just bad business" "I spent tons of money on drinks and was tipping well" The floor told him that the 30 mins was up and that he could come back and buy in for whatever he wanted to, but don't try and say that you were 'ran off' tonight.


So, even though this guy was good for the game and a great tipper, a rule like that wasn't broken to let him back in the game. But, I bet if a huge fish cashed out for 1k and wanted to buy in for $500, it would probably be allowed in most instances.

This is pretty much correct. I was in a game a few nights ago with an absolute maniac. Guy was drunk, playing oot, exposing cards, and using lots of loud profanity. The floor warned him a few times but nothing changed.

I (floor at another casino) would have likely booted him already but as a player, I was thrilled he was in the game. He was dumping money into the table and I was getting a good share of it. All I did was move to his left.

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^^ Absolutely this.

Yes, he sometimes could be good for your nights play, but his antics and attitude could also drive away other rec players who also have money you could take too. So maybe too often he would not as be good for your game as some of you say.

There's always one, isn't there? Good riddance.

The problem is that while all the players want him in the game ....while he is losing. Sooner or later someone who is losing in the game is going to get upset. Sometimes its just being sore loser .... but sometimes its because this guys shenanigans finally mattered in the game.

As a dealer I feel its a no win situation .... if I try to enforce the rules and the guy gets upset .... everybody is mad at me.

If I don't enforce the rules I know that sooner or later something is going to happen which is going to get somebody mad at me and have a valid basis for it.

This.
Guys like this generally drive away more players and $ than they donate. In addition, it's got to be worth something to you to avoid having to endure spending hours at the table with this jerk.

I completely agree. Like I said, I would have booted him out of my place. I think the dealer should have spoken up and the floor should have done more than give a warning.

I just know that while I was playing, I didn't want him leaving that game. And I seem to observe that I good number of players feel this way. But, to your point, those feelings often change the moment they become negatively affected by his antics.

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We take the good w/ the bad. Some players play poker bec, according to them, it's the one place that they can act out however they want. They are not there to win, they are there for therapy. There is a fine balance to be maintained. If a player is so bad for the game that he drives off other bad players then we should try to get him bounced but I've noticed that the threshold for that is extremely high. About a year ago one such player where I play was finally perma banned and it should've happened years earlier but that type is fairly rare.