I just watched the episode finale and I thought this was by far the most interesting hand. Is Ivey a stone cold genius or what? Is this a great play or am I being results oriented because it worked this time? One of the best examples I've seen of turning a made hand into a bluff and knowing exactly where you are. For once the commentators had it right, Ivey had no business winning this hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbffZf-nzdA

cool quality bro

Is this the first family pot?

It could be.....what exactly is a family pot?

Hmmm....yeah, pretty much. Turning trips into a bluff OOP and getting two of the very best in the world to lay down trips and a Qh flush.

I mean....

Best part is that Benyamine clearly doesn't think Ivey's capable of turning a hand that strong into a bluff.
He thinks Ivey can't merge in that spot, and since Ivey couldn't have a pure float after calling 2 streets, then it's a fold.

Ivey must know that MrB doesn't know he's capable of pulling this play, hence making it the optimal play.

It's funny how Ivey is leagues in front of even the next couple of best players in the world, especially in ring games.

Even if he knows Ivey is capable of this, its prob more likely he has the nut flush than trips. But that hand was so ridiculous, Ivey is so absurdly good.

I don't think so. I think Ivey plays the nut flush differently.

when i saw this and heard RW say he almost has to have the nutflush here i was facepalming. He almost never has the Ad in his hand here ever. what Ax combination flats the flop.... another proove how bad the commentary is.

ivey represents a boat and a boat only on the river imo.

cool hand
lol @ ppl asssuming they know how pi would play in particular spots

you should post the q-5 hand or q-4 hand or whatever it was vs feldman as well he called a check raise otf to half pot value bet bluff the turn i mean that hand is sick as well... pretty insane that at the highest level ivey edge is still so high

Ivey Owning Feldman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd6sLVKmzSc

Wouldn't he be raising 22 and K4 stronger, earlier in the hand?? so he is repping K5?? Obviously he doesn't have Ad much. His hand really looks like a boat or Kx turning into a bluff and Benyamine obviously didn't think he would turn Kx into a bluff... sick stuff

This hand definitely deserved its own thread. imo this is the coolest/sickest/awesomest hand of TV poker since durrrr vs Barry vs Eastgate.

I think you don't give Benyamine enough credit. He has to know after playing so much with him that PI is capable of something like this, but that doesn't mean he can call. Ivey bets nearly pot on the river, and to break even DB has to call and win ~30% of the time. Since Ivey is valuebetting worse pretty much 0% of the time, it amounts to 'would Phil bluff here 30+% of the time?' And there's no way DB can think the answer is yes. How can he be bluffing on this river when he overcalled a bet and a call on the turn? He'd have to be doing exactly what he is, turning a bare K (or a small flush?) into a bluff, vs two very strong players who could have a FH themselves. Somehow Ivey just knows what's up, and makes an above-the-rim play that gives DB no choice. tbh I think it would have been really terrible if DB had called, even though he obv would win.

i have dealt with a lot of persons and i can tell Phil Ivey looks like the sneakiest person on earth.Just look at his eyes when he plays or when he talks to people.He`s a sneaky *******.

So few replys!

Maybe peoplo doesn't like to comment something that they don't understand, and with fear of looking bad.

Yeah, it looks like a Kx turned into a bluff if you can actually see the hole cards.
In game everyone, and I mean everyone would think that this would be such a ******ed line with any bluffing hand (in one way it is!) that it has to be precisely one of the full house (or straight flush) combos - no matter how rare those hands are, any bluff would be even more rare -> fold anything short of a boat. I mean why would Phil make a bluff that barely represents anything? He's better than that Both villains got out-leveled hard here (PA has a way harder time calling not closing the action, but Benyamine got destroyed)

its an insta fold for PA.

for benya, it's pretty much what he said during the hand.

I think this is the video you should watch if you are ever in doubt who the best player in the world is.

Sick thing about Ivey making these very thin plays and bluffs quite often in highstakes cash games is that I've NEVER seen him make a fool of himself with some ******ed hero call or failed bluff Hellmuthstyle

Phils likes to add to the story he is telling. So he looks up and right and people believe his fake story.

Matusow: I bet they are both the same card
Ivey: BET! BET!!!!

lol

benyamine didnt play his hand very well did he

It seems to me that if Benyamine had raised the turn, when he first hit his flush, he might have prevented what occurred. But he might also have missed a street of value against two guys who thought they had made hands. Unfortunately for him, a card fell that let Ivey represent:

• A better flush (if he held Ad [and if Benyamine imagines that Ivey had AdKx, Ivey's line REALLY starts to seem scary])
• A straight flush (if he held 36d)
• All the possible boats with the paired kings (which Ivey could have repped anyway)

Realistically, I don't think Benyamine messed up that bad. He was always going to have to confront the possibility that Ivey had a full house. But that last diamond added a bunch of possible holdings to fear, and Ivey exploited that fear masterfully.

I agree that it's one of the most daring (and precisely correct) bluffs that I've seen, but it seems very different from the Dwan bluff of Eastgate/Greenstein that somebody mentioned ITT. A very specific set of circumstances arose on the river that let Ivey improvise; it was not the story that he'd been telling from the beginning.

Still: Ivey a poker genius? I'm going to vote yes. Controversial, I know...

I thought the sneakiest people wouldn't let you know they're sneaky

its 40 grand and u have the queen you would think that DB would call i mean he does the french high stake games and there buy in is 250k + so 40k cant be that much to him

I think David was folding even the Nut Flush there, great play by Ivey. The bet size screams full-house, and like David thought, "how can he have a bluff here?"