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10-08-2014 , 05:48 PM

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prickly00

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 718

I have had this variation happen to me and it did tilt me. In order, my hand went over first and the other player snaps up his chips and while reaching for my 8 chips flips his suck out winner. Dick move I thought, I didnt mince words floor was called over to cool it.

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10-09-2014 , 02:11 AM

#27

pfapfap

HP JoY 2011 wienerbucket

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 22,537

A Fixed Limit game is different because there's no question about the size of the bet, so there's no need to verify.

FWIW, as a dealer I get mildly annoyed at this for all the reasons stated, but I also force myself to let it go because I've never had it be a problem. I'm also not a fan of someone taking his own bet back for similar reasons. I like to double check the bets so that the loser feels comfortable he's paying the correct amount. But again this is my own little bit of nittiness and I've never seen it be a problem.

As a player, I let the dealer do his job. Even if 1 in 1000 players finds it rude, that's too high of a risk for me.

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10-09-2014 , 04:51 AM

#28

Mubsy Bogues

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,265

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Originally Posted by prickly00

Another variation: some players like to put their chips back into their stack before flipping over a winner, before they've even seen your hand. Douchebag move.

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10-09-2014 , 05:14 AM

#29

steamraise

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,492

Once the dealer has mucked the losing hand and started pushing the main pot it's fine to grab the chips near you.
(as long as it's clear the amounts are right)

Before that it's pretty much an ass hole move.

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Originally Posted by prickly00

I didnt mince words floor was called over to cool it.

He accomplished his goal. He got a rise out of you.

If you had just said "Nice hand" and didn't react, everyone at the
table would be thinking what a dick he was and what class you showed.

Now they think you're both idiots.

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Dick move I thought,

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Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

Douchebag move.

Definitely.

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11-12-2014 , 12:26 AM

#30

KingandQueen

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 105

It is very poor etiquette. Some people will take this as an excuse for an argument or even worse. No one benefits from such a situation. Let the dealer push you the chips. Also don't antagonize the guy you just beat. If he lost because of bad play don't you want him to continue playing?

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11-12-2014 , 09:53 AM

#31

Mr Rick

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,618

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There are several different scenarios to consider.

If the other player made the original bet or the final raise then the amount is always correct unless the player announced a bet different than the chips he put out. I have never seen the latter case.

And in the case where the other player has called then you make a good point. Yet I have never seen a case of a guy reaching for an incorrect amount and I have seen cases where the dealer screwed up and didn't get a bet from a player who had called. I also have heard of cases where a player illegally pulled back some of his chips after committing them. Could be sample size though.

In most cases I have seen where a player pulls in chips before the dealer pushes them it is because the bet sits far from the dealer and/or the dealer is making no effort to collect the bet and is pushing the main pot.

Guy in the 9 seat, pot winner in the 10 seat. 9 seat had called and put out an incorrect amount (too many chips). Guy in 10 seat reaches for 9 seat's chips but dealer beats him to it fortunately. Turns out 9 seat had 1,800 out there instead of 1,600...

There were no hard feelings but guy in 10 seat learned his lesson and will no longer be reaching for opponent's chips. At least not without explicit request from dealer.

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11-12-2014 , 11:41 AM

#32

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13,425

this happened the other day and I thought about this thread. The guy next to me was in a hand with the guy on the other side of him. His opponent tabled his hand, and this guy took his bet first, then tabled his winning hand. The other guy didn't complain or anything but I thought this guy was a total piece of poop for doing it.

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11-12-2014 , 03:19 PM

#33

Dominic

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 75,380

One of the most joyous situations I have while playing poker, is when I stack someone and get to point to their lonely, single $ chip they didn't bother putting into the middle with the rest of their chips, and saying, "that's mine, too."

God, that's great.

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11-12-2014 , 08:25 PM

#34

Rapini

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,092

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Reminds me of this story someone told me @ Commerce years ago:

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<snipped Commerce TR>

That incident of course gave me an opening to ask others at the table to share their craziest Commerce stories. The best one was Seat 4's story. He told us about two players at a 100NLHE (2/3 blinds) game who had been jawing at each other for hours at a table adjacent to his 2/5 NLHE game. In Seat 2 at the table in question was an accountant, slight of stature, in a suit, tie undone, looking disheveled. In Seat 8 was a skinhead, imposing in stature, wearing little more than his myriad tattoos. After all those hours of sh*ttalking, Seats 2 and 8 finally got all in against one another. Seat 8 won the hand and of course stepped up his berating of Seat 2. Seat 2 held back a single blue chip ($1) when he shipped his stack. When Seat 8 called for the chip, Seat 2 zipped the chip across the table and hit Seat 8 square in the forehead. Seat 8 immediately pulled out a rosary, uttered, "God, give me patience," began to pray, and calmed down.

Just kidding. Seat 8 made what I'm sure he thought was the only move he could make: he jumped up onto the table, took one step toward Seat 2, and sent Seat 2 airborne with a swift boot to his right orbital bone. I quote Seat 4 from my game: "And then he jumped off the table and proceeded to do a tap dance on the accountant's head. Meanwhile, security was nowhere to be found." Security did arrive a minute or two later to escort Seat 8 to the commencement of his permaban.

The story didn't end there though. Seat 4 from my game saw the skinhead a month or so later at the Bike. He discreetly notified management of what happened at the Commerce and the Bike security escorted him out to commence his permaban at the Bike.

One final note on that story, if you can believe it: the accountant was charged with and convicted of assault for throwing the chip at the skinhead, but the skinhead walked on his charges via a successful claim of self-defense. For those of you who don't know, that means someone (a judge or a jury) believed that a boot to the orbital bone is reasonable force with which to respond to being hit with a poker chip.

<snipped Commerce TR>