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10-31-2016 , 08:45 AM
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What places outside of America have:

- reasonable rake (so not Macao)
- good $5/10nl+ running all the time
- no smoking/no second-hand smoke

Do these places exist?
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10-31-2016 , 09:17 AM
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There isn't even such a place in the US. Right now, at 9AM ET, Bravo lists exactly one 5/10 game at Bellagio that comes with second hand smoke.

Outside vacation/convention places, regular people who can afford to drop money in 5/10+ games usually have some kind of day job that prevents them from playing 24/7. Not only in the US but everywhere in the world. Most casinos in Europe don't even open before the (early) afternoon..
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10-31-2016 , 09:31 AM
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>There isn't even such a place in the US.

Not this morning, but there are places that have 5/10 games that run for most of the day.

>Bravo lists exactly one 5/10 game at Bellagio that comes with second hand smoke.

And lots of it!

> Not only in the US but everywhere in the world. Most casinos in Europe don't even open before the (early) afternoon..

I'm looking for possible places that at least have big games—without stupid Macao-style rake—running everyday for a long window of time. So far, I don't think there is such a place. I don't think Canada would qualify, because, last I heard, their rake is around $15/hand.
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10-31-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Casino du Montreal or Fallsview Casino come to mind.
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10-31-2016 , 03:19 PM
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There's places in Western Canada with 5-5 PLO games and $5 rake. Only PLO though.
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10-31-2016 , 11:50 PM
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What Canadian market rakes $15?
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11-01-2016 , 12:03 AM
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What Canadian market rakes $15?
Playground Poker Club in Montreal, I think it's 14 but supposedly top notch free food and drinks. Haven't been there myself.
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11-01-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Casino du Montreal or Fallsview Casino come to mind.
I've played at Casino du Montreal. Do they still have 5/10nl daily? When I played there they did, but it was one of only three games running and that was a long time ago. Montreal was awesome. Poker Atlas only lists them as having 5/5nl with a max $1000 buyin.

Poker Atlas says Fallsview runs 2/5 daily but 5/10nl only on the weekends. Is that accurate?

I've heard Edmonton (or somewhere in Canada where there's oil) has good games, but I don't know how big they are.
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11-01-2016 , 10:43 AM
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Playground Poker Club in Montreal, I think it's 14 but supposedly top notch free food and drinks. Haven't been there myself.
Yep, that's the one I heard about. $14 adds up!
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11-01-2016 , 12:46 PM
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Poker Atlas says Fallsview runs 2/5 daily but 5/10nl only on the weekends. Is that accurate?
2/5 is their lowest limit and my understanding is that 5/10 runs every day or almost every day, but I haven't played there in a few years so that might have changed. It used to be 2/5 and 5/10 every day and 10/20 on most Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.
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11-01-2016 , 12:49 PM
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In Edmonton basically you play at the Pure casinos. Yellowhead has 1/2 and 2/5 NLHE and Argyll has 1/2 w/ 5$ bring in NLHE and 2/5 PLO. The 2/5 is uncapped and can play pretty big. There is also sporadic 10/20 and 25/50 PLO at both Pure casinos.
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11-01-2016 , 02:23 PM
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I've heard Edmonton (or somewhere in Canada where there's oil) has good games, but I don't know how big they are.
There's no oil in Edmonton, it's a big city and the capital of it's province. But lots of oil money does get there, as it is the closest big city to the oil money, as well as there being government jobs and drug money.

When I was there I didn't see any 5/10, but there was 5/5 PLO. In Western Canada, all the big games are generally PLO.
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11-01-2016 , 04:31 PM
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Poker Atlas says Fallsview runs 2/5 daily but 5/10nl only on the weekends. Is that accurate?
Correct. 2/5 is lowest limit and 5/10 only runs on weekends or special occasions. Lately there's been 5/10 PLO running on the weekends as well.

2/5 is $7/30minutes and 5/10 is $8/30minutes

No comps at all (no literally, nothing, only free parking)

Tables are 10 handed

Dealers range from terrible to good and management ranges from awful to terrible (ok to be fair there are like 2-3 good floor people ^^)
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11-02-2016 , 06:34 PM
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There isn't even such a place in the US. Right now, at 9AM ET, Bravo lists exactly one 5/10 game at Bellagio that comes with second hand smoke.

Outside vacation/convention places, regular people who can afford to drop money in 5/10+ games usually have some kind of day job that prevents them from playing 24/7. Not only in the US but everywhere in the world. Most casinos in Europe don't even open before the (early) afternoon..

I find it hard to believe that 5/10 does not run everyday at major CA casinos.
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11-03-2016 , 09:57 AM
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I find it hard to believe that 5/10 does not run everyday at major CA casinos.
There's a difference between everyday and at 7AM on a weekday morning. There are obv 5/10 games everyday in CA, but they don't run "all the time".

It's basically very hard to work Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM as a poker pro, unless you want to play 1/2 with grumpy old men. And even then you could argue that you might make more money playing just the opposite times, Friday-Saturday 9PM-5AM.

Back when I was a semi serious online player, I faced the same challenge every weekend. Play Friday/Saturday night and Sunday or party with friends at night and be too hungover to play on Sunday. Usually I picked the latter option and that certainly didn't help me financially.
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