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NEW Poker After Dark - Week of July 14 - Cash Game - Who Will Win The Most $$$?

View Poll Results: Who Will Win The Most $$$?

Tom "Durr" Dwan

136 41.72%

Phil Hellmuth

27 8.28%

"Silent" Mike Baxter

12 3.68%

Allen Cunningham

119 36.50%

Guy Laliberte

18 5.52%

David "Viffer" Peat

14 4.29%

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07-21-2008 , 03:37 AM

#876

BigSoonerFan

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Originally Posted by The_Taj

What would you do to see Hellmuth get 1-outered by Durrr to win the main event?

Nothing. I want to see him get pummeled with raises and reraises, and then get knocked out with the worst hand, "Thank You" (like set over set against AC).

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07-21-2008 , 05:13 AM

#877

Jourdain

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Phil is great:

'Criticizing someone else's bad call and then they make a much worse call, that's ironic. I know that's a tough word for you durrrr, now that you didn't go to college'

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07-21-2008 , 12:19 PM

#878

EGarrett

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Originally Posted by PhishOneTime

I understand that he wants to play position. All I'm saying is I throw up every time I have to look at him. I can't imagine why people suck his nuts off so much. He is a complete bore and the definition of a Dbag.

Um, you could be talking about anyone at the table?

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07-21-2008 , 02:20 PM

#879

BULLLLDOZZZZZERRRR

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Originally Posted by The_Taj

What would you do to see Hellmuth get 1-outered by Durrr to win the main event?

Insta-perma-happy-tilt

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07-21-2008 , 03:02 PM

#880

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god helmuths self centerdness tilts the **** out of me. When he was bragging about air-balling Dwan with K5o and dwan responded to him with "omg rly? i had a deuce" the typical reaction would have been to been surprised and impressed or whatever, but PH just ignored Dwan twice and continued talking about himself (with sunglasses on). He was completely ignorant to how ****in close he was to getting completely obliterated.

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07-21-2008 , 04:55 PM

#881

oldmangrimis

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Originally Posted by RikkiDee

I think phil played bad and Durr play realy good, but I have to disagree with close to completely obliterated. Phil made a good play that hand and he won that pot you can't flip that.

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07-21-2008 , 05:07 PM

#882

BobbyLight

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My feelings are a lot like most in this thread...this week was awesome, I want a PAD cash game every week,etc.

Just wanted to add that Ali Nejad was really really good this week.

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07-21-2008 , 05:12 PM

#883

blankoblanco

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Originally Posted by oldmangrimis

Phil made a good play that hand and he won that pot you can't flip that.

firing a second barrel (remember, he didn't bet flop) on a scare card when checked to, when betting is the only way you can win the pot, is not exactly impressive. it's standard. durrrr almost calling is seriously a hundred times more worthy of acclaim than anything phil actually did in that hand imo

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07-21-2008 , 05:25 PM

#884

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Originally Posted by oldmangrimis

I think phil played bad and Durr play realy good, but I have to disagree with close to completely obliterated. Phil made a good play that hand and he won that pot you can't flip that.

i don't deny he made a good play (although if durr was anywhere but the very bottom of his range he was getting snap called) I just hate how PH didn't even knowledge what Durr was saying in the interview.

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07-21-2008 , 06:38 PM

#885

Bonobo11

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Considering the amount of compliments Phil gives others, i thought he was pretty respectful towards Durr in the last interview

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07-21-2008 , 07:14 PM

#886

tailspin4540

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Did they ever mention the Durrr-Hellmuth run-in at the Heads-Up Championship?

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07-21-2008 , 11:47 PM

#887

PokrLikeItsProse

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Originally Posted by tailspin4540

Did they ever mention the Durrr-Hellmuth run-in at the Heads-Up Championship?

It got mentioned in one of the lead-ins opening the show, where Dwan was introduced as the guy most famous for cracking aces with pocket tens, then having Hellmuth introduced as the guy who had his aces cracked by "that guy."

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07-21-2008 , 11:54 PM

#888

PokrLikeItsProse

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Originally Posted by Self Made

1) Why the odd structure? Their donkaments have an odd structure too. Don't the producers think regular poker is good enough for TV? I couldn't find a 250 bb min. buyin game with large antes if I wanted to. Certainly not at my local or online poker room. Why not a normal 100 bb deep game without antes?

To generate action. Deep stacks allow for more plays like floating the flop and better implied odds for speculative hands. The antes help create more multi-way pots. No antes and shallower stacks lead to more hands that are raise-and-take-it pre-flop or c-bet-and-take-it on the flop.

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2) Is Ali talking more this season? Please stop. Haven't we make it clear that one of the things we've liked about this show is limited commentary and being able to hear the table talk? I don't need Ali talking over table talk or his play-by-play, and venturing into analysis is dangerous for him. E.g. the hand where durrrr raised Baster on the river with two pair. I, and even that donkey durrrr, correctly recognized it as a weak blocking bet, but Ali painted it as a strong value bet (or representation of such).

I like Ali's play-by-play. I prefer him to any poker commentary team out there (but then I also liked his appearance as a player.) He consistently relates the size of the bet to the size of the pot, for one. He also talks over at least some of the table talk on the instruction of the producers.

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07-22-2008 , 12:07 AM

#889

Devilboy666

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I understand that some people find Ali's voice irritating but he's definitely one of the best poker commentators out there. Imagine PAD with someone like Jesse Mae behind the microphone...

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07-22-2008 , 03:37 AM

#890

Cardgrrl

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Originally Posted by Devilboy666

I understand that some people find Ali's voice irritating but he's definitely one of the best poker commentators out there. Imagine PAD with someone like Jesse Mae behind the microphone...

I would be obliged to stick superheated knitting needles into my ears.

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07-22-2008 , 03:39 AM

#891

hairycrackaritus

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Originally Posted by Devilboy666

I understand that some people find Ali's voice irritating but he's definitely one of the best poker commentators out there. Imagine PAD with someone like Jesse Mae behind the microphone...

gabe kaplan is the best just for that bob stupak joke alone.

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07-22-2008 , 05:42 PM

#892

thesnowflake

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lol @ replaying the KK vs AA hand AI preflop

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07-22-2008 , 06:12 PM

#893

oldmangrimis

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Originally Posted by blankoblanco

if it so standard why did durrr just give up that money

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07-22-2008 , 10:39 PM

#894

blankoblanco

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Originally Posted by oldmangrimis

if it so standard why did durrr just give up that money

uh because a) he had a pair of freakin 2s; his hand can't beat several bluffs, b) phil's fakeout angle psyched him out, and c) it's surprising for phil hellmuth to actually play a street correctly

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07-23-2008 , 11:22 AM

#895

pokerkid45

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So are they done with the cash game? When will it go back to the cash game?

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07-23-2008 , 04:39 PM

#896

BigSoonerFan

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Originally Posted by blankoblanco

uh because a) he had a pair of freakin 2s; his hand can't beat several bluffs, b) phil's fakeout angle psyched him out, and c) it's surprising for phil hellmuth to actually play a street correctly

This.

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07-23-2008 , 07:50 PM

#897

Devilboy666

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Originally Posted by pokerkid45

So are they done with the cash game? When will it go back to the cash game?

They just filmed one cash game for now to see how it does. The next few weeks will be SNG again but they are going to make more cash game episodes.

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07-23-2008 , 09:13 PM

#898

Mr_Mxyztplk

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Originally Posted by Killingbird

my wife (who never watches poker) was just watching this with me. She wanted to know if it was some kind of special poker game because there are 4 gay guys at the table.

I told her that I thought only 3 of them were gay, but that I could be wrong.

I think I saw the waitress handing out poppers.

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07-24-2008 , 06:16 AM

#899

ueberstimuliert

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Originally Posted by Devilboy666

They just filmed one cash game for now to see how it does. The next few weeks will be SNG again but they are going to make more cash game episodes.

wrong, they filmed two:

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7 37-42 Oct 13-Oct 19 Cash Game #2 Patrik Antonius Dee Tiller Howard Lederer Doyle Brunson Gabe Kaplan Eli Elezra

here are the other dates of the season: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=209904

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07-24-2008 , 05:18 PM

#900

oldmangrimis

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Originally Posted by blankoblanco

uh because a) he had a pair of freakin 2s; his hand can't beat several bluffs, b) phil's fakeout angle psyched him out, and c) it's surprising for phil hellmuth to actually play a street correctly

but you said that with air that it was stander to bluff there, say that thet move was easly so if it was so easy, it should of been easy not to loose it. if he had a pair of 2 and he could not beat several buffs then it was an ok bluff by phil but you call it stander. I think you just say that becouse of how played it. So phil angle ok so he should of show his tell of what he hand, come on. if you don't like him cool I don't like him aswell but bash an ok play just make you sound like kid.

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